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I am currently studying in college and part of my college course dictates that I most do a work experience placement. I ended being placed in a charity shop. The first couple of days went well. Its a small little shop in a shopping center so there wasn't much for me to do. So they decided that today I'll do some work in the warehouse where they receive their goods.

They gave me the address but they forgot the bus so I ended taking a bus that stopped at a 20 minutes walk away. I got off the bus and tried to find this warehouse with the help of Google maps. It kept constantly telling me to go in different directions for the next 40 minutes. So I was walking around in 0 degrees Celsius weather is just a jumper. I eventually managed to find the correct area but it was in a big industrial park. I went searching around for 40 minutes and it turns out all they had to identify them is like a tiny wooden sign. So I finally got to my placement nearly 2 hours late. They were quite forgiving about it though since apparently that has happened to a few other before.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

This morning my colleague was sent to a school she didn't know, so she used GMaps to get the directions. She parked her car, but wasn't able to find the school. She called me and we found out that GMaps sent her almost 1km away from her destination. I gave her the correct address and she was able to find the place, but she was late for work (no big deal anyway). After further inspection, I found out that the school was mapped as an insurance office. I suspect it's a case of vandalism, but who knows.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The last time I used Google Maps for navigation (several years ago), it had me get off a highway, and then get back on it in some strange U-turn situation... I was a guest speaker at an event, but fortunately gave myself plenty of time to get to my destination, as it wasn't a place I've been to before.

I couldn't believe it had me do all that when "continue going straight" would have been the only real option!

So, yeah. It doesn't surprise me that it also gave you and others the runaround. I'm surprised they haven't fixed this problem in all these years. I bet they improved the ad delivery, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Had you accidentally turned on 'avoid highways' by chance? Because the one time that happened to me it was.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it's a non-US thing, but here in Sweden GMaps will desperately force you onto roads that it has decided are highways or some other kind of "fast" roads I guess and it makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nope. Absolutely not, since highways were 90% of that trip. It did this like halfway through, for no reason that I could think of. No traffic. No accidents up a head. It quite literally had me get off the highway, and reenter at the same interchange!

The only options I would have enabled would have been "avoid tolls" and "avoid ferries". Neither of which applied for this

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It may have thought you were taking the off ramp (GPS wobble) and rerouted on the fly.

Google maps has burned me so often, I now have a pre trip checklist for new routes. Check traffic along the entire route, the approximate on-ramp/exit #s I’ll take, and a quick look at streets around the destination.

They’ve enshittified the service so much I am just learning “normal” navigation now??? FFS.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I found out that the best way to force Google Maps to update is to make the correct edit in Open Street Maps. Google seems to source its local information from there.

Just an anecdotal example: I live at the end of a cul-de-sac, and I've seen loads of cars drive up to my house, and then gingerly do a 15-point turn (the road is very narrow), and drive back. I checked Google Maps and found that it lists my street as open. I've filled reports with Google several times, and nothing happened. Then, I updated OSM to indicate that at the end of my street there's just a pedestrian footpath to the next street. Within two weeks, the number of cars turning around decreased drastically. I checked Google Maps, and found that they fixed their map. A few years later, there's still the odd car making the mistake, but the only map service I could identify that still didn't update was Apple Maps.

Since then, I've done several edits in OSM (I live in a young estate, with loads of construction still going on, so maps are not very reliable), and Google always picked up these edits.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I corrected gMaps about 20-30 times over the last few years since we moved into a new building (first renters -- whee!). I actually had work peers submitting corrections too.

Finally, out of the blue, it was fixed, and now I check weekly for it to revert. Now, fucking UPS losers who can't read huge numbers on the side of the road can find me again ... and drop my package out on the street in front of the building for the free-rangers to steal. You're gonna love how my new presbyopic, astigmatic, myopic eyeglasses feel on your face, you dick.

I'll try a correction to OSM next time. That's GENIUS.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

I've had this happen often enough (while walking) that now I check the map to see the direction I'm going and brute force it, ignoring the instructions. It's at least as handy as a paper map sometimes lol.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As much as I use Google maps, I'm always upset with it. It constantly wants to reroute me to whatever it decides is more "optimal" even when I put in a very specific route. I don't always need the fastest, most fuel efficient, or whatever else Google decides is important route. Sometimes I want to the scenic route and just would like the occasional turn is coming up prompt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Also the way to chooses the optimal route is questionable.

Some times it prefers to do a longer, slower route that includes toll roads... I could understand if it was faster or shorter or both, then paying the toll would be worth, but otherwise...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

This is why I switched to organic maps and OSM

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You know people used to use paper maps or just remember directions.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Jesus.

  • Phone is obviously giving bad directions, blindly follows them anyway.
  • Travels wearing a jumper in lethally cold weather.
  • Too socially broken to ask a stranger for directions.
  • Can't figure out how to call the shop or warehouse. Or anyone?
  • Took the wrong bus, because "they" forgot which one he needed?
  • All of this is Google's fault. (And the warehouse for having a tiny sign.)

And if I got any of that wrong, it may be because OP can't relate a simple story in proper English.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

How is this the warehouse's fault?! They have a sign!! This is demonstrably 100% Google's fault for not knowing the numbering system inside a private industrial park and how it maps to exact GPS coordinates. This should work infallibly every time and require absolutely no correction from the business owner or user feedback.

(/s in case that wasn't abundantly obvious)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok. I'll clear up some of them.

  1. I knew at some point so I tried sussing out and travelling in the general direction which is the best I could do in that situation.

  2. Yeah. I just wake up and forget to put on a cloth sometimes.

  3. I did eventually. But the thing is a random person on the street isn't going to know which warehouse it us unless they've been there. I asked and I only got vague directions.

  4. I called. They tried giving me directions but they had other calls to attend to so they couldn't be on the phone the whole time giving me step by step instructions especially when at the the time I called them I was at 20 minutes walk away.

  5. They didn't give me a bus. They just told me the location so I incorrectly guessed which one it was. I had Google maps open at that point I was convinced I had the right bus until it continued past a turn it was supposed to make to get to my destination. By that point it was too late so I had to get off before I went further off course.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I'm mainly baggin' on you for blaming Google when there was so much more you could have done. Tell you a story that changed my life.

Parents used to read a Guideposts entry every morning at breakfast. It's a non-denominational, "We believe in a god and that's all we're saying about that.", sort of magazine. All of the stories were written by readers.

So this guy is talking to his buddy about being an aircraft pilot and how everything is his responsibility. Every. Thing.

"Yeah, but what if an engine fails?"

"That's on me. I'm responsible for inspection, maintenance and reviewing maintenance logs."

"OK, ground crew gives you bad gas?"

"That's me. I'm responsible for checking."

"Fine! What if terrorists take over the plane?!"

"It's my plane. I'm the captain. I should have seen the threat coming and acted accordingly."

You see where I'm going with this. I can't think of a single bad thing that has happened to me where I could not have done something differently. Blaming externalities shifts the responsibility for your life away from you. And that makes you feel helpless, not in control, leads to depression. And that fucking sucks.

I suppose one could take that attitude too far, but again, I've always found that I could have done better. Maybe a bad thing that hit me is 98.435% someone else's fault, or even totally random? Well, I've always found a way I could have avoided it. And that sort of thinking has served me well in life.

LOL, sorry to go all "dad" on you. And FFS, always travel with more cloth than you think you'll need. This kinda weather could Darwin Award a person.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Sorry, but what's wrong with a jumper? That's normal cold weather clothing, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I've had a few experiences like this. I started using landmarks and the compass to navigate instead but that doesn't take into account things like a sidewalk ending or obstructions which can result in major losses in time

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It happens occasionally, you can file a report and fix it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've filed so many reports and they have never fixed any of them. My favorite one was that I was driving along following directions and realized google took me down a private road. No shit, had no idea where I was, but this "road" was definitely someone's field road. In the middle of it there's a car parked to the side, and literally 2 guys, one with a shotgun just stare me down as I drive away. Got back on the main road and got the fuck out of there.

Reported it to Google as a private road. Nothing changed. Reported again - response with "We didn't find anything wrong". Reported again and still nothing. Reporting is a placebo for google.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mine was fixed 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same. The only time I ever reported something wrong on maps, it took them 3 months to get around to it (the queue must be very long) but they fixed it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

all 30-odd corrections I submitted to my own address were handled within a day. And then reverted, but at least handled.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Idk. Google Maps has had the wrong location for my mom's address for what seems like forever now. Reporting it has done nothing. It's really frustrating because it means she can't get deliveries from anyone other than USPS, UPS, Amazon, or FedEx. Food deliveries are flat out not possible. It directs people to an entirely different neighborhood.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I've driven all over the South and not had issue. Google's walked me down some truly weird back highways and byways, always got me there. And if I wanted to take a different route, I'd go my own way for a bit, let Google reroute.

Like OP though, once it run me in circles trying to get to the SSA office downtown. My wife started to turn according to directions, "No. Keep going, it's not back there."

Had to turn it off because it was driving me nuts, "Make a U turn." No. "Fuck you blind and deaf?! Make a U turn." Once I got past the glitch, no issue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Probably my biggest wish for Google maps is an option for me to turn off any suggestions to make a u turn.

Maybe it's different in other parts of the world, but around me 90% of the time it's not even legal to make a u turn where it wants me to, most of the rest of the time it's legal but kind of a bad, dangerous idea to try to do one there.

If I'm not at an actual dead-end I'm not making a u turn. Just reroute me around the block, have me do a lap around a parking lot, take me to the next-closest gas station, whatever you need to do, but a u-turn ain't happening on my watch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even though I put the actual address of my home in, it sends me to another address on a different street. There are a lot of one-way streets involved, so it’s not a simple re-route when people end up there. I’ve submitted countless correction requests for years, but of course nothing changes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Similarly, Google maps thinks that my driveway on a dead-end street is actually on the street behind my house. Fortunately, it only messes up its directions when you're leaving the house.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s so odd that it’s a “one way” mess up!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

The house itself is correctly located on the map. The driveway is not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’ve stopped using Google Maps for walking directions and use Apple Maps instead. Whenever I use Google Maps, it gave me the most winding, dark backstreet walking route possible, but the same way on Apple Maps was really straightforward.

I really feel like Google is overall degrading.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Am I taking crazy pills? Apple Maps is first of all (from my experience) orders of magnitude less reliable, and second of all has worthless recommendations and business ratings.