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[–] 274 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Replacing physical controls with touch buttons continues to be an incredibly dumb idea. Luckily several other manufactures who hopped on the trend are realizing it was a bad choice.

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  • [–] 114 points 2 years ago (17 children)

    Is nobody gonna mention this horrible KITT steering wheel?!? That damn thing is dangerous.

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  • [–] 123 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Yeah round wheels are not a fuckin style choice. It’s so you can grab it anywhere in any situation. This steering wheel looks fuckin deadly

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It’s great for Tesla, for one reason - modularity.

    If your input/control has a physical button, that immediately needs independent wiring, assembly steps, A THOUGHT OUT PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT PLAN, another BoM item to build the car/widget, and usually markings that limit its use for other functions (present and planned).

    Tesla can bury controls and change interfaces as much as they like on the main touchscreen, or even add new features. It’s still trash for driver usability except when parked for all the obvious reasons, but hey they get to ‘push’ new features over cellular networks as they’re developed. Y’know, instead of selling a complete product in the first place.

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    [–] 166 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    For those that don't want to read the article:

    Tesla is going with buttons on the steering wheel instead of a stick to the left of the wheel

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  • [–] 141 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Tesla is going with buttons on the steering wheel instead of a stick to the left of the wheel

    Its even worse than that. The buttons are smooth surface (like a touch screen) with haptic feedback. These are truly a horrible idea:

    If I had one of these Tesla cars I'd look into retrofitting the stalks back in.

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  • [–] 79 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Wtf, seriously? I've tried using media buttons on the steering wheel during a turn. It's not reliable in the slightest, because it's a moving target.

    Does the non circular steering non-wheel never go past 90 degrees or something?

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago

    I once accidentally dialed 911 from my steering wheel phone buttons while pulling a turn. Surprised the shit out of me and the dispatcher didn’t sound like this was the first call of the type. This is a fucking terrible idea.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Tbf you are supposed use the signal before turning wheel

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  • [–] 69 points 2 years ago

    In addition to roundabouts, there are plenty of freeway exists that loop around where you can be at an extreme turn and need to initiate a lane change. Or making a right turn into a gas station after a left turn at an intersection... lots of use cases.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    In Norway, you have to indicate your exit in a roundabout by activating your turn signal, and he found it difficult while turning the steering wheel, which you have to do in a roundabout. A driving student would fail their test if they don’t activate their turn signal in a roundabout in Norway.

    He said:

    I tested the Model 3, and noticed that I lost both focus and direction in roundabouts. It’s not directly life-threatening, but you run the risk of both driving on curbs and other cars if there are two lanes.

    After posting his findings in a group for driving schools, he was met with agreement by many other instructors who said that they experienced the same issue and the risk is much higher with students.

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  • [–] 114 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    Tesla’s reasoning for going away with a method universally used for signaling turn for decades is that it enables them to remove a physical part, the stalk, and it believes activating a turn signal will soon be unnecessary with the advent of self-driving.

    Why the hell do billionaires keep laughing in our faces? I swear every time one of them or their companies opens their mouth, it's like they're making fun of us, the poor people.

    "We care about your privacy" — (they don't) "a turn signal will soon be unnecessary" etc.

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    [–] 101 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    The new Tesla Model 3 should be banned from the whole of Europe until they put the indicator stalk back. It is virtually impossible to safely and legally traverse a roundabout without it.

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    [–] 98 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Tesla’s reasoning for going away with a method universally used for signaling turn for decades is that it enables them to remove a physical part, the stalk, and it believes activating a turn signal will soon be unnecessary with the advent of self-driving.

    Spit my drink up a bit when I read that.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    Meanwhile Teslas are quickly building a reputation of being impossible to repair, so replacing an industry standard component that never breaks for a digital system is a great way to keep the title.

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    [–] 87 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Yeah, it's not designed with roundabouts, (i.e. road infrastructure designed with logic and common sense) in mind.

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  • [–] 92 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's not designed with any common sense in mind. They just figured they could a) cut costs and b) make the vehicle look "cleaner", because Musk and the people who work for him are intellectually incurious morons who refuse to learn why things are designed the way they are before trying to reinvent them.

    The thing about breaking the rules is that if you want to really do it well, you have to understand why those rules exist in the first place. That's hard to do when you start from the position of just assuming that you're smarter than everyone else.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago

    It was designed to cut costs and hope fanbois would think it was innovation. It's so dangerous a change it should be banned in countries where drivers are expected to properly indicate while traversing roundabouts.

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    [–] 86 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Leak of Tesla's next-gen Steering wheel:

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    [–] 86 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    I didn't realize Tesla's even came with turn signals. They must be hard to find because they never get used.

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    [–] 63 points 2 years ago (27 children)

    Tesla fucking up traditional driving controls only make sense if their self-driving system is working so the driver has no need to touch the steering wheel except in rare case. How good is Tesla's full self driving these days?

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    [–] 53 points 2 years ago* (6 children)

    I am more concerned about why the Witcher 3 is featured on the car's screen. Does it double as a PC?

    Edit: Spelling

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    [–] 52 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Tesla has the highest accident rate of any car brand. And Tesla intends to remain number 1 in that regard

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    [–] 45 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Style over substance, and a ugly style at that. Of course lots of people are gonna love it and say it is the best thing ever.

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    [–] 39 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    While in the EU Teslas were already "banned", if you want a proper cat B license, and not just a cat B(78). If you take the test in a car with automatic transmission you get a code 78 license, with which you can legally only drive automatic transmission vehicles.

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    they are the most advanced company in cost-cutting. They will put everything in 10 sub menus on the screen instead of costly buttons. And the people are confused, they see big screen they think cool. But having metal physical buttons and crowns with haptic feedback is just on another level 🤤. Especially those crowns where theres a silent click that you feel with every turn. Feels so fricking good damn.

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