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I had a feeling they'll put something like this, so I went in every now and then to see how infinity will react. I really loved the app, devs did an amazing job

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I was really hoping to see an "Infinity for Lemmy" app. Oh well; Jerboa it is I guess.

Edit: spelling

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I heard that Sync for Lemmy is going to be a thing.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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[Screenshot of the Infinity app for Reddit. A pop-up notification is on the bottom of the screen.]

Important Notice Regarding Reddit API Changes

Starting from July 1st, 2023, Reddit API will be pay-per-use for 3rd-party clients, which include Infinity for Reddit. The announcement from Reddit can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api

In order to survive this change, Infinity will become a subscription-only app after July 1st. You can learn more about the changes in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Infinity_For_Reddit/comments/147bhsg/the_future_of_infinity

It's required for you to update Infinity after July 1st so that you will get the new version with subscription options. None of the previous versions (including this one) will work after July 1st. But due to a tight timeline Reddit gave, the update may not be available immediately on July 1st since it requires proper testing. Thank you for your understanding!


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a Lemmy ToR? ToL? I'm in. 30 transcriptions on reddit, time to carry on the legacy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I created [email protected] but we got a lot of work to do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would be the client I used - it's a shame they're being pushed to this.

Once that app goes subscription, I'll run a purge on my account and drop in a GDPR request invoking my right to be deleted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If by purge you mean power delete suite, it (and others like it) won't work after the 1st.

Also I don't know how true it is, but apparently it costs them a handful of money to comply to GDPR requests for data recovery. So maybe do that and then delete.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If I understand it correctly, Power Delete Suite should work just fine, since it's using the logged in user's API access. It will just get hit by the "free tier" rate limiting, but that only should mean it will take longer to do it's thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I was an Infinity user but I can't help but feel this is the wrong move. After all Reddit has done to them they just set up a way to siphon miney straight to them for the devs' hard work?

Why?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

And isn't it a little unethical not to even mention nsfw?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I love Infinity but I deleted the app the instant I read that, I was gonna wait until July 1st to see if something changes, but damn

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I find it extremely ironic that all the closed source apps, some with subscription options, are closing or moving to support open platforms, while the prime FOSS app is staying with Reddit and going subscription only.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think it's ironic at all - Infinity is and always has been a Reddit client. Subscription fees seems to be the only possible way for it to continue to be a Reddit client and if only a small number of people are willing to pay, then that's fine. It's an open source project and doesn't need to make enough money to pay a salary. It just needs to pay the API costs.

Infinity also doesn't need any of it's existing contributors to continue using it, they could all move on (perhaps start work on a Lemmy clinet?) and other people might keep developing Infinity. Open source projects change hands all the time.

If someone wants to make the app into a client for another platform, they can simply fork Infinity. It doesn't make any sense for Infinity itself to change into a totally different app. And it would be totally different, Lemmy has different features.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It just needs to pay the API costs.

As I wrote elsewhere, I just worry that the dev will get screwed somehow. While before they only needed to make an app and let it loose, now they'll need to constantly be on a lookout if their users API usage doesn't exceed what they're paying in subscription. Or if a thousand bots buy their app with stolen credit cards and Google holds their money. Or if someone hacks their app/server, figure out their API key and racks up a billion calls in spam.

They're turning a hobby dev project into a business, to be exchanging thousands of money between Google, themselves and Reddit, potentially being in the red for any number of reasons, and dealing with taxes and accounting on top of that.

I mean this is exactly what the Apollo dev said he doen't want to deal with (he just anticipated a much larger volume than Infinity, but the principle is the same).

Apparently the dev is just starting their first job and don't have time to port the app to Lemmy, how will they have time if there's some disaster caused by Reddit?

Maybe it will work out for them, but I'd be super careful doing any business with Reddit at this point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is is because the sole developer was actually a CS student, now looking for a first job (sick what he achieved at his age right ?) so he has no time to change the app to support Lemmy. However he said that should someone pick up the development, it should not be to hard to integrate the new feeds to it.

See 2nd link in the post.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even more reason not to deal with a dickish corporation and be on the knife edge of possibly being tens of thousands in the red, if you're fresh out of school.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think it is great for resume for applying jobs

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it's baffling. I haven't touched Reddit since the blackout but I still had my Infinity app installed, just out of nostalgia I guess. While the dev has every right to do businesses with whomever he wants, I expected differently from a FOSS project. Now to delete Infinity...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm going to delete infinity on July 1st

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is baffling but maybe he sees that there will be very few decent third party apps and an opportunity to monetize his work. I have seen discussion of scripts that compile infinity from source with a personal API key. So, the FOSS option still being maintained is a win I guess. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

True, I just worry that the dev will get screwed by Reddit. If I were a dev or doing some business, I wouldn't touch Reddit with a very long stick. It's like poking a huge dung, you can only get a swarm of flies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

oof. the only reason I even used infinity was to browse reddit without an account. now there's less of a reason to use it past July.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A number of devs talked about the pricing and the consensus seems to be that the fee applied to keep the apps afloat would need to be pretty high and they don't see how it can be sustainable.

I wonder how much Infinity is planning on asking and I doubt its user base will be so keen on paying that much.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sync I paid for cus it was just so slick, Infinity not so much. I certainly won't pay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Did you see that the dev is looking for entry level jobs/internships?

That's crazy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He doesn't want to work on a Lemmy app because he doesn't use that platform. So even after all this he wants to continue using Reddit? Learned nothing, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Stockholm Syndrome on full display

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Social media as a business model rapidly becomes unethical

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

cough more unethical

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why so many of you in the comments are complaining that he "is trying to make business with Reddit"? It is his own app, he is finishing his studies and he have achieved so many things, he has the right to do whaterver he wants with his application. Also, you can just download the Infinity's source code and build your own version of Infinity with your own API key. It will work without any problem after 1 July. So where is the problem there?

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