To voice train one must listen to their voice, hence why I don't voice train, hence why my voice sounds male. At this rate Mr. Evrart's helping me find my voice
Me, when I was male presenting: Hello ma'am, how are you today?
Me, now that I'm trying to present more androgynous: Hello sir, how are you today?
I haven't changed my voice in the slightest either
Honestly I've had other experiences. Due to long hair I've been referred ma'am a few times and honestly that made me feel cute and soft and stuff. But I always love to correct them to sir. The little shock older people get when seeing a girlish boy is amazing.
I like also to hang around trans spaces due to this because from those I can learn how to increase my beauty factor and raise the cuteness scale but I still feel best being a MAN doing MANLY SHIT, like seeing that picture of a shrimp and yelling at the top of my lungs HELL YEAH.
It's funky, because I also don't feel like an egg or even wish to be a woman. Either way I love you guys.
Oh and more thing. Trans spaces are one of the few places I can get helpful info because if you try to look up anything femboy, all you get is porn upon porn, endless sexualization and objectification and one (1) specific style of clothing. You know which one. Fuck. Thank you all.
Im a cis guy with a high voice and I get misgendered over the phone fairly frequently. Even in person with a mask on sometimes, which is fun because when I take it off I have a mustache and I've gotten to watch people's brains break in real time.
Gender is a fuck. Thank you for your service, comrade.
Oh absolutely! I definitely understand being on the wrong side of gender expectations, but as a dude it really is easy mode comparatively and I have nothing to complain about. It really helped me understand my partners transition issues though, and I'm here to fuck with normies trying to pigeon hole every person they interact with into a gender binary.
Are you me? This is almost word for word what I was about to comment. I also get misgendered in drive thrus pretty frequently.
Drive thru is one I haven't had any issues with, but that does sound downright comical potentially
It happened more pre moustache and pre mobile ordering, but it was usually a "go ahead and pull up to the window ma'am" and then a brief "deer in the headlights" stare and then pretending it didn't happen when I got to the window. Not to lean too hard into stereotypes but having long hair and driving a Subaru wagon probably contributed as well lol.
It's probably related but apparently my voice sounds really different over the phone too, to the point where coworkers who know me in person have though someone else answered my phone the first time they called me lol.
We need to abolish verbal communication until I can figure out what's going on 
Yeahhh exactly how I feel haha. I also like my voice but also like... I need people to gender me correctly. I think right now my presentation is like kinda androgynous but my voice makes people always gender me male in person, drives me crazy.
Yeah I voice trained specifically because talking on the phone made me feel dysphoric. I used to think I just had phone anxiety!
(i still have phone anxiety it's just better now)
I despised my old voice and I changed it. It took me the better part of about 8 months to get it somewhere, and it's not perfect by any means (it has some weird quality to it that I can't figure out what it is), but it's infinitely better to me than it was forever ago. I will say that I can't bring it the rest of the way home cause that small quality throws me into dysphoria mode and I hate it.
As a note, I'm not saying this to put anyone down. Just to share my experiences. Whichever voice you choose for yourself is valid and, at the end of the day, yours to choose.
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