Replacing US tech with European one is the sole reason I just came back to Lemmy.
I don't like you guys on Lemmy but I condone the independence from US tech overlords.
Replacing US tech with European one is the sole reason I just came back to Lemmy.
I don't like you guys on Lemmy but I condone the independence from US tech overlords.
Musk treats critical infrastructure like a toy he can switch off whenever his ego needs attention. And the US calls this a strategic partnership: make Europe dependent on American corporations, then remind everyone who holds the kill switch. With allies like these, who needs hostile powers? We need: https://sovereignty.it/ π₯
Just? He's been providing receipts for at least a couple of years.
"The message heard loud and clear here in Europe was that the U.S. is an unreliable security and technology partner willing to throw any partner under the bus, at any time, for any reason." I am sorry, but this has been the business model from the start
Oh right, as if the other 28472 reasons were not enough.
one more reason*
Yeah, it's been one reason after another since Trump took office. And it was already an issue before that.
And yet, I still do not see corporate Europe make even the tiniest move to hedge against the risk that at some point, oligarch-owned U.S. companies will pull the plug on them. I wonder what their rationale is. Are European corporate strategists just too stupid or stubborn to see this as an obvious threat to their companies' very existence? Do they believe this will just "blow over" and things will just return to normal after Trump? (Spoiler: they won't.) Are they planning to lobby European politicians into kissing ass and bending the knee once the U.S. returns with new demands running counter to European interests?
I assume the corporate ones are only looking for shortterm gains, and the strategists in government/politics that actually have influence are all bought.
Why should I buy a fire extinguisher? My house isn't on fire, so what am I going to do with that investment? In the meanwhile, I can use that money on something that will bring about an immediate benefit, such as a mini fridge for my 7up cans or a deep fryer for chicken wings.
Sounds stupid, I know. That's exactly how companies work. That old code written in the 1980s still works, so why bother rewriting it. This old server still runs and we're not even maxing out its capacity, so we're definitely not upgrading it. Instead we will keep on pouring millions on patching the old code even though there are only a handful of people who know that language. Meanwhile, we will also complain about electricity prices, even though newer servers would cut electricity expenses to a fraction. Companies are totally allergic to capex, but somehow they can always handle absurdly high opex.
I assume the corporate ones are only looking for shortterm gains
Plausible, unfortunately. After all, the first one to make a move is the first one to be hit with cost, and is thus exposed to a competitive disadvantage as compared to the other idio... err, corporations who do not take any action.
That said, I had hoped European corporate leaders would be less short-sighted. After all, the possibility of the U.S. leveraging big tech to rugpull the EU's economy is far from an abstract threat. At this point, not hedging against this scenario is like driving without a seatbelt. Yes, things might work out just fine for you - good if they do! But in the event of a collision, you're thoroughly fucked, and if and when that event will occur is not for you to decide...
I would guess the US tech companies have bribed, lobbied or otherwise bought the decision makers at these EU companies, and got them into contracts and sales deals.
U.S. companies kind of have, of course, kind of "bought" European CEOs, and not even in a sinister way: they showed them what they (the first-movers and quasi-monopolies in the market, chock-full with VC money) could offer, and at what cost. Of course, European alternatives to that would seem relatively limited and expensive. At the time, choosing U.S. hyperscalers certainly was the rational thing to do because they offered the best "bang for the buck" for European companies.
But now with the looming threat of these same hyperscalers having to cut off European companies' access, European companies need to reevaluate their cost-benefit analysis. By my estimate, the threat of somebody being able to remotely shut down your business from one day to the other should scare the living shit out of companies and leave them scrambling for alternatives, or a hedge against this risk at the very least. And yet: crickets.
Also, Teslas should be banned from Europe. Spyware on wheels
What car isn't spyware these days?
These days its more an iptuib of " should I let China steal all my data, or Russia, or perhaps the USA?
You think Tesla cars are the only cars in Europe that can spy on you? Do say what cars you'd keep.
No thatβs not what I think. It also wasnβt my point. Itβs that Elon is way out of control, and god knows what he will do with all that data. Block it now.
Ah yes, Elon is trying to break Canada apart. Shilling for MAGA with the old "divide and conquer". I assume he's using Tesla data, SpaceX data, and DOGE data to model political predictions making him think Canadians (and Europeans) will kiss MAGA feet.
Do say what cars youβd keep.
KIA data harvesting can be turned off.
Which shareholders of SpaceX should be suing the shit out for Musk for.
They can fire him.
Can they? I hope they can.
While it's mathematically possible, it's very implausible. He owns 42% of the shares.
He wrote that nuh-uh they can't, but if they ever find the testicular fortitude to stop tolerating his bullshit, then presumably courts will say 'it's their company.' At best he can be CEO for life of an empty room with a scuffed Chromebook so he can cry about it on Twitter.
You know Starlink is limited to 100mph and, as a commercial satellite internet system, explicitly forbids its use for weapons, right?
Ukraine's been spoofing geolocation on their Starlink terminals to get around this limitation, and SpaceX fixed the issue by monitoring how fast a terminal is switching between satellites.
Did you also know Starshield has no such limitations?
Did you know that Ukraine is specifically using the military version of Starlink so that this wouldn't be a problem? What are you on about?
Companies should have an inherent interest in at least appearing to be reliable partners. Some theoretical NSA backdoors, sure, these never concerned 99% of European companies or customers. But this behavior makes it clear, that anything goes if it serves a political, economical, narcissistic or really no purpose at all. We now need to move all our infrastructure off US systems and companies. Anything else is reckless.
I don't understand his thinking. Every government in the world is going to try to find other platforms now that they know Musk can pull the plug if he feels so inclined.
No.
Every population will advocate for finding another platform. The governments however are bribed bought lobbied to act against their countries interest, so they won't. Which weakens confidence in democracy even more.
So showing off their insanity while still getting away with it is in fact a double-win for such fascist-adoring oligarchs. For the same reason all those deeply corrupt right-wingers have no problem openly showing their corruption now. It has long become part of their "democracy doesn't work"-messaging.
Didnt germany just buy new fighter jets from the us for billions but without critical map data, with said killswitches, with undisclosed data sent to U.S. and not even the right to maintain them? Absolute crazy.
Germany bought a small number (35) US fighter jets as replacement for the aging Panavia Tornado used as bombers carrying US nuclear weapons as they are not allowed by their allies to have their own.
And they did so alongside ordering more Eurofighters (58 additional ones already ordered, more planned long-term) for all other roles (even ones where EF variants are still to be developed - EW for example which also is covered by Tornados at the moment) exactly for one reason: the alternative would be giving the US all details of the Eurofighter to get them certified for these bombs.
Context matters... and allies (France and UK in particular) are free to find another arangement than forcing Germany to use US equipment to fullfil NATO requirements. Alas... they won't because... reasons...
In this insane world order created by Trump a lot of countries including Poland, Japan, South Korea, Australia and Germany will need to build their own nuclear weapons soon enough.
Oh fuck off, as if anyone with a brain needed a reason not to give Germans nukes. Germany has been very happy with not fulfilling NATO requirements for years (decades?), yet that one they sure felt was a priority. Blame anyone for your mistakes but yourself. Planning a vacation in Poland soon?
Sure, mate...
Letting Germany have the by far biggest army in all of Western Europe for decades as long as the cold war was ongoing: totally fine.
Screaming about Germany needing to demilitarize the moment the soviet union broke down and you don't need them to defend you anymore: totally sane.
Complaining about Germany not doing enough for their army after forcing them to massively size it down the moment there is a possible threat on the horizon: sure, why not?
Also βjust one second after complaining about not enough German military spendingβ: haha, Germany nazis! Applaud my genius!
If you don't want to look like a total nutjob, at least be consistent...
Musk and Trump's apparent strategy of not being reliable is also why Canada has been making more deals outside the US lately.
Lol like we needed a reason
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