What's that again about political violence coming from the "Left"?

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[–] 11 points 46 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

Later, Bianchini told TV station WPVI, “Was it wrong? Absolutely. Was it justified? Absolutely. And I would do it again if I had to.

Bianchini has a history of confrontation since becoming mayor in January. He told a councilmember to “shut the fuck up” during a budget dispute in May.

Mayor Matthew Bianchini is clearly an unstable, violent man and has no remorse for his actions. He should've been arrested on the spot like any of his constituents would've been if they had tried to assault someone. Why are Republicans so weak on crime?

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  • [–] 42 points 3 hours ago (1 child)

    Don’t attack my family

    Motherfucker, don't attack my country! Fuck you and the entire fascist GOP!

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  • [–] 128 points 4 hours ago (12 children)

    Was it wrong? Absolutely. Was it justified? Absolutely.

    Gotta pick one, chief.

    100% pure, concentrated, conservative logic right there.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 hours ago (7 children)

    Was it wrong? Absolutely. Was it justified? Absolutely.

    Gotta pick one, chief.

    Not in America. There's plenty of people that will tell you murder is wrong, but in the same breath tell you state-sanctioned murder is justified.

    In fact, I'd wager most people, including myself, hold logically inconsistent beliefs. Logically consistent systems are either incomplete (per Godel) or impotent (like Presburger Arithmetic).

    I really wish there was a universal moral calculus, but I haven't found one.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

    Personally I'm not necessarily against murder, gotta judge it by a case by case basis but I don't think the state should do it 9 times out of 10.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    That's an easy one to defeat. Just depends on how you define murder. Like no sane person would balk at killing someone in unequivocal self-defense. I would exclude that kind of act from the definition of murder. That gets dicey when you take something like Luigi. Can outright murder be acceptable given a failing system? No one is considering murdering healthcare execs in places with universal healthcare.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 hours ago

    If corporations can make decisions which directly lead to the deaths of others then those impacted by those decisions should be able to respond in self defense. The fact that they're killing people with a pen stroke instead of a weapon doesn't change the life-threatening nature of the situation they're intentionally creating.

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  • I was thinking more along the lines of people lynching David Duke or Steven Anderson, A hate preacher associated with the quiverfull freaks. But also generally speaking C-suites and politicians as well.

    The way I see it there's no point in offering civility to those who would kill me for fun or a quick buck.

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  • [–] 57 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    well the left made him do it. so the violence is their fault. obvious, really.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    In watching the video, mayor says he's not gonna hit anybody. Video sure showed us something else. Is the mayor intentionally lying, or is he genuinely that out of touch with his own actions?

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  • [–] 15 points 3 hours ago (1 child)

    I think he said “get”, because he was yelling “I’m gonna get you” as he was being dragged away. AKA making death threats, which is a felony. He is trying to create plausible deniability for the death threats by jumping in front of a news camera, before any charges get filed.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

    Seeing this while I'm listening the "No Gods No Mayors" podcast is (chef's kiss) beautiful... I love it when a mayor is embattled.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    So worth remembering that incident of politican harassment has gone up by about 50% irrespective of party in the last 3 years federally. Also true across the board in the US.

    I am not justify the acts, but putting this in context.

    it's obvious, but the system isn't responding to, connecting with, or improving constituents lives. Or the constituents have become less tolerant of not being listened to... even if the message are mixed.

    And of course the media is not helping. Telling the whole story is important, not just a perspective.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    incident of politican harassment has gone up by about 50% irrespective of party in the last 3 years federally

    How much do you want to bet that the federal definition of "politician harassment" has widened dramatically during those same 3 years?

    Also true across the board in the US.

    Is it, though? According to who?

    the system isn't responding to, connecting with, or improving constituents lives. Or the constituents have become less tolerant of not being listened to

    Correct, but it's AND, not or.

    And of course the media is not helping

    Even more correct

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  • [–] -1 points 2 hours ago

    So the Capitol police attribute some of this to an increased detection, not a redefinition. But your point is still vaild, with a caveat. While the Federal threats have blossomed, it's not just them.

    study after study after study after study shows an increase of politicians being abused, attacked, and harassed.

    And it's global not just the US.

    We live in a attention economy which doesn't want real answers, or real context. Whom ever sounds the best wins. The problem is that Nature doesn't take a side.

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