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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
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[–] [email protected] 132 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Strawman.

What people are justifiably concerned about is pollution causing death and disease. Fuck off with this hYpOcRiSy bullshit

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fuck off with this hYpOcRiSy bullshit

I don't even find it hypocritical... I'd be sad too if I couldn't eat the fish... It could have at least died to fit in my belly rather than just dying for no good reason.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Or some other creature that eats fish. Every death in nature should benefit someone, ideally. 😕 Us or other animals.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Guarantee the person who made this is a vegan.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I know it's a meme, but is anyone actually sad for the fish? I thought we were terrified about what was happening to our food. If someone autopsied a downed cow and a bunch of toxic plastic shit spilled from their stomachs, we aren't thinking "poor cow ate all that plastic and died." We're worried about our food supply.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Lots of people are sad for the fish, but they're usually vegan

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm sad for the fish because if they're gone I can't eat them, and they can't eat the tasty little fish, and they miss out on all that lovely tasty phytoplankton...

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm sad for the fish. Imaging being forced into a massive pile of others just like you while being crushed by the weight of them and suffocating to death. It's fucked up

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (84 children)

That has more to do with farming practices though, not plastic pollution.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Mmmmm smoked kippers. 🤤

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

It is sad and gross in a way that's hard to pin down. I can find nature both beautiful and delicious at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I do have some level of sympathy for the fish but also recognize I'm a little more sympathetic to non-human life than most people. I can't bring myself to kill insects without a good reason (except ticks and mosquito) not even ants. Whenever my parents would cut down a tree on their property I grieve for the life of the trees lost just because my dad fell off one as a kid and has a subconscious hatred for them now (yes he even admitted to me this was the case) I even feel some guilt about cutting grass and mulching the occasional bee.

I've worked a seasonal job giving medical care to dairy cows, once you see just how poorly farmers treat them and how horrific their short lives are its hard not to feel bad for them. Farmers make standard animal cruelty cases look like mild neglect by comparison. The only blessing is that modern cows have been selectively bread to become so docile as to be almost braindead.

I'm cool with eating animals, the cycle of life and all that, but in trade we can at least try to give them decent lives that aren't so fucking awful from birth to death. Like it or not even fish have some level of intelligence and most likely emotional capacity. same with farm animals, trees, mushrooms, insects, and probably even the microorganisms to some degree. To think we are special and the only feeling lifeforms on the planet out o billions just cause the thinky thinky parts of our brain are a little bit bigger than most is just stupid and a very human-centric idea that strokes our own collective ego in a manifest destiny kind of way.

Yes I know I'm wierd but maybe the world needs a few people like me who care a little too much about non-human suffering.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If a fish die of plastic, you probably eat plastic while eating fish

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't think there is any probably anymore. You are eating plastic no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Might as well leave the cheese singles wrapped while you eat it; you're getting the plastic anyway.🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Wait, you guys have been unwrapping them?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Then we die of plastic

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

We're not just eating tons per day, we're eating about 430-ish metric kilotons per day.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Maybe the latter has something to do with the former. Fish die from plastic; no fish to eat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

This made me cry

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Dredging nets over the sea bottom, destroying all underwater habitats to squeeze 5% more fish out of the ocean: I sleep

Cute turtle with its leg stuck in a six-pack ring: real shit

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I <3 the micro plastics in my body ✨️✨️

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

People here are talking about fishes as our food source but what about fishes as a food source for other aquatic life? Or other animals that feed on those marine life? The effects can be far reaching. So the implication of a fish dying from plastic is a bit more complicated than what OP's making it out to be

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

We can avoid eating animals though

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Any fish that dies from plastic is dying from a method that isn't me eating it. Also, there's lots of fish I don't eat that I'm not cool with dying to plastic. I really like the ocean plants that make all the oxygen I breath too.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

It's weird. I don't like most fish, but I really don't have an ethical problem in general with eating fish as long as they were harvested sustainably. Unfortunately, most of the saltwater fish I have enjoyed over the years- shark and swordfish steak, cod, tuna- are not harvested sustainably, so I don't eat them. That pretty much leaves me with farmed trout and catfish, the only two other fish I like. And I just don't feel like it's the same as eating a cow or a chicken. Maybe I don't have any actual scientific basis to go on, but fish are just so different from us and so much more primitive that it just doesn't bother me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Comments have been locked due to toxicity. Sorry op.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thats why I'm a pesca-pescatarian, I only eat fish that eat other fish. (joke stolen from Silicon Valley)

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