Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was personally and explicitly warned that Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar was planning a major attack roughly 10 days before the October 7 massacre, but dismissed the threat and did not alert his security chiefs, according to a shocking new Haaretz report.

The revelations come from research for an upcoming book Hostages: 843 Days of Abandonment, written by journalists Shlomi Eldar and Ruth Yuval, who writes for Haaretz.

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[–] 131 points 1 month ago (32 children)

It really was isreals 9/11.

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  • [–] 92 points 1 month ago (24 children)

    "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US" is a President's Daily Brief prepared by the Central Intelligence Agency that was given to U.S. president George W. Bush on Monday, August 6, 2001. The brief warned, 36 days before the September 11 attacks, of terrorism threats from Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, including "patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for a hijacking" of U.S. aircraft.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 month ago (22 children)

    Plus the fighter jets that could have intercepted the planes were conveniently not there.

    Not saying they orchestrated it, but if you think Cheney wasn't above letting a few thousand citizens die for massive defense spending, I have a bridge to sell you.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago (21 children)

    if you think Cheney wasn’t above letting a few thousand citizens die for massive defense spending

    The two flights that hit the Twin Towers were as unexpected as anything we've experienced since Pearl Harbor. I don't think Cheney "allowed" them through. I think the national bureaucracy was sloppy and failed to catch the hijacking before it happened.

    Meanwhile, Flight 93 was very likely shot down and then covered up.

    Republicans were going to get a massive defense spending bill passed one way or another. Dems are always happy to roll over and "Support the Troops" when push comes to shove. It's a stretch to say Cheney slow-rolled the response to a terrorist attack for the money. But very easy to believe he and Bush fumbled the response because they were bad at their actual administrative jobs. But then they spun the fuck-up into a cash grab months after the fact, because they're very good at that sort of thing.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I still believe we let Pearl Harbor happen to drum up support for entering the war. I have no doubts the Bush administration wouldn't do the same.

    They used Bush as a distraction while they did shit behind the scenes. I don't even think Bush was actually as dumb as he appeared to be. I think a chunk of it was an act.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I still believe we let Pearl Harbor happen to drum up support for entering the war.

    It's certainly possible FDR was warned of the Japanese attack in advance. But we didn't have a Pacific Fleet capable of repelling them. Moving what we had to Pearl Harbor was an effort to improve our (generally weak) Pacific naval capacity and establish a forward operating base in anticipation of an attack in the Philippines. Not coincidentally, Japan took the Philippines the day after Pearl Harbor.

    Also, this was already two years into WW2 and four years into the Sino-Japanese War (where we'd been backing the KMT against Japanese encroachment since the 1920s). Nothing like 9/11, unless you want to claim we'd been at war with a continent-spanning Islamic industrialized military since the late 90s.

    Also, plus, further, too, the 9/11 attacks were calculated by Bin Laden as an explicit provocation intended to draw the US into a quagmire war in Afghanistan. Which... it did! Maybe didn't go down exactly the way he planned, as the US dicked around in Afghanistan far longer than the Russians managed before their government collapsed. But if 9/11 is the Pearl Harbor to this analogy, it's akin to saying Tojo wanted the US Navy to exhaust itself in the Pacific over the next twenty years. Let's not forget that Bush didn't want a war with Afghanistan. He was focused on Iraq and Iran. Afghanistan was a massive distraction.

    And all of this hinges in a world in which FDR knew about the highly secretive Japanese navy movements in advance decades before we had the B-2 spy plane much less satellite surveillance. All to score a... media victory? In a country where FDR's post-Depression government already had a heavy collar on the national press to the point that he was doing highly rated nightly podcasts to a national audience?

    It's a pure apples/oranges comparison.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    So, at that point Hawaii wasn't a state. The queen of Hawaii was asking for anyone during this ongoing war to liberate them from their horrible US occupiers. Japan thought the US would be mad about it and Japan would be able to say they were just liberating Hawaii which is what that were doing with other islands around the pacific already. The US knew about the attack and pulled the valuable assets to attack the planes as they went back. What was left in the harbor were old ww1 relics that they didnt care about. When Japan saw this, they actually feared we knew and were going to attack them after they dropped their payload (which we were) so they called off most of the attack before it really even began and took a different route home.

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  • [–] 90 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    He did nothing because he wanted to start genocide.

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    [–] 44 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    It was my conspiracy theory from the beginning

    The Mossad knows what I ate for breakfast and didn't know this?

    They were able to infiltrate into Hezbollah so deeply that they could control their supply chain, fake a whole pager company from scratch and hide a remotely controlled bomb in every communication device, yet could not have any evidence of the terrorist attack planned by hundreds of people?

    And by coincidence they had the excuse to start the purge and genocide?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    I'm not much of a conspiracy believer but Netanyahu said multiple times on camera that Hamas is good for Israel and given how surveiled Gaza was the theory that Israel allowed the attack is very convincing.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Who benefits most from that Oct. 7th attack?

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  • [–] 38 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Didn't they specifically reduce defenses in order to make sure it would be a big enough deal that they could play it for support of going on the offensive?

    Or has that been debunked now?

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    [–] 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Old news, but hopefully it catches this time.

    They basically let Hamas attack and take hostages in order to have an excuse for the the current an ongoing genocide.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    even if he wasn't, he waited 7 hours to respond.

    that's criminal.

    imagine 9/11 but they waited 7 hours to send in emergency services.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    This is old news right? I remember reading about it a long time ago

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    I remember hearing about it, but not the source. It's in character for Israel though. Israel doesn't like Jews if they're the "wrong" kind of Jew. If Hamas had targeted a military base or political gathering, it probably would have been stopped before hand.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    The Bush Administration were well aware that something was up just before 9/11, too, and deliberately ignored it, hoping to use it as a pretense for a war in Iraq, so Dick Cheney's Halliburton could take over the Iraqi oilfields. There are multiple documented instances where warnings were given directly to the highest levels, and literally NOTHING was done to investigate or prepare for it.

    They probably thought there would be a car bomb or shooting or something, and we got 9/11.

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    [–] 17 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    A reminder that Mossad's motto is: 'War by deception'

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago

    Is anyone surprised?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    Hamas was planning == was israel's plan, all along

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago

    Don't quote me on it but iirc there were even several barracks worth of soldiers told not to post to even basic security positions for the music festival that was happening that day.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    He was able to make like thousands of beepers suddenly explode in people's faces or whatever it was, but there was no way they could have seen this massive attack coming.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    Course he did. It was probably in the monthly status update from Hamas.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    If this is true, who is the real enemy of Israel?

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    "Well of course i knew it would happen, i planned it" /hj

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    He was helping fund Hamas leading up to October 7th, too

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    I'd really like to know about the frequency of false alarms.

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    [–] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    HAMAS was heavily funded through Qatar by Israel. They are literally funding different terrorist groups in order to create needed conflicts to justify takeover of land and invasions. They need it for The Greater Israel project.

    They will also try to create biblical events through mass destruction in order to harness world wide control through mayhem, as that's their currency. They have no morals, no empathy and consider everyone else to be cattle for slaughter. They will spill as much blood as possible in order to get total control over the world. They want to see all nations bow to them, but they will never have it.

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    [–] 6 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    I hate it when conspiracy theorists are proven right. It fuels the flames for so much chaos.

    Next we'll find out the CIA really can read your thoughts and tinfoil hats really do prevent that.

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    [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    If you know about unit 8200 then you know he was warned about the attack

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