Because "order" and "add to cart" are metaphors a reasonable person uses for licensing contracts?
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When a company advertises a game for purchase, a reasonable person would expect to purchase a buy-once perpetual license to play the game as long as copyrights and online code of conduct are respected. Otherwise, it's only a rental, not a purchase. Geez, if this is a class action, let me in on it! Sony is full of shit.
Exactly. I would only expect to lose the license if Sony went out of business and was no longer running the servers and did not make arrangements to let the software owners licenses continue after that, which a decent business would do.
And any reasonable jurist or judge knows you're ripping off your customers.
The real battle here is about DRM and the ability of these games companies to stop people being able to play games, resell and do ownership things with their games. This is going to require government intervention that much has been clear for a long while.
I guess I'm an unreasonable player, when they put a big "Buy" button I foolishly assume I am buying it.
Seems like they're saying if it was a disc, I'd have ownership of that disc. But since it's digital, I have nothing.
If that's their metric from reasonable, then there are no reasonable PlayStation players.
Sony is taking heat, rightfully so, and I hope this changes things, but this is a more pervasive problem. Plenty of other companies do the same thing. I hope future rulings change how all companies operate when it comes to digital sales of games, movies, and music. What that looks like, I don’t know. Maybe lower costs of games that you don’t physically own. Maybe the inability to lock people out of games they purchased even if their accounts are banned for whatever (probably AI decided) reason. Probably many other potential options that would not be anti-consumer.
I think the real problem with this is what we're seeing with software distribution in general. They say, "yes you're buying a license to the software." Which in general we have accepted. But at the same time companies get to change the terms of the license at will. And the license is worthless after just a few years as the software becomes defunct.
This is even more pronounced in videogames as once they're past a certin time if they arent part of a popular catague they just disappear. At least with old games abandonware can be found because the game data is still on old media. In this new ecosystem the publisher can now delete that data off your device whenever they decide that game is abandoned. This includes if the owner of the game hasnt played it in too long. And if you get nostalgic for a classic, "buy it again as part of our subscription service."
If only one Person can own gta6, what follows would be that a Copy of gta6 would not be the one Product called gta6, since it would be unreasonable to assume, that this Copy was the one original Product. Since no Product was involved no theft has taken place. Sony still has its Product. No one Else is in Control of it. It would be unreasonable to assume the Copy was the Product.
They actually argued the opposite. They're trying to claim that if they sell a copy of GTA6 that confers ownership, then they can only sell one copy ever.
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