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[–] 110 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

"As I lifted the gun to show her I suddenly heard a loud bang," Kris allegedly said. "I did not understand what had happened. Lucy immediately fell."

Bullshit. This means he took a loaded gun, failed to clear it, put the barrel in the direction of a person, and pulled the trigger. Guns don't just "go off". All while having admitted to relapsing on alcohol. I count four mistakes there, where any one of them not having been made would have prevented this incident.

It's almost like you'd have to intend to make that series of mistakes.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 hour ago* (2 children)

    So, fun fact: Alexander Hamilton may have killed himself.

    He supplied the dueling pistols for the duel with Burr, and a few things about them.

    • He had them custom made with a larger, more deadly bore.

    • He had modified the trigger to require a much lighter pull than most pistols would have required.

    • The musical (of incredibly dubious historical value) even makes note of this, he was seen fiddling with the trigger prior to the duel, and selected his pistol first.

    Accounts on Hamilton firing in to the air differ, but what is consistent are accounts of Burr seeming pretty shocked when his gun went off. Accounts also pretty universally indicate that he tried to rush to Hamilton after he'd been shot to lend aid before being escorted away.

    Anyway, that's not at all meant to refute your claim. Guns generally don't just "go off".

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  • [–] 2 points 30 minutes ago (1 child)

    Guns generally don’t just “go off”.

    They can and do. There's chapter and verse on gun safety - handling, cleaning, storage - to deal with the risk of accidental discharge.

    If you treat a gun like a toy (and this guy's testimony certainly sounds like he did), it's very possible to fire it by accident.

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  • [–] 4 points 43 minutes ago (2 children)

    Yeah the only guns I know of that can just "go off" either have a hair trigger that's worn or are of exceptionally shit build quality like say the Ross Rifle.

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  • [–] 4 points 35 minutes ago (1 child)

    If you take the worst gun, modify it to have the lightest trigger possible, if you don't have it just sitting around with a round in the chamber it won't just "go off". It's wild that the simplest safety precaution save a lot of lives but nope these people need their dick extensions to always be ready to go.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 minutes ago

    Oh I was just making note that there are ways for a gun to to fire by itself for one reason or another when loaded. Regardless making sure the gun is cleared is a pretty damned good way of ensuring it doesn't do that. Or alternatively leave a Ross Rifle behind for the Germans when you leave a trench so it's their problem.

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  • Would be a shame if someone shot him for his political beliefs. A damn shame.

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  • [–] 142 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

    Literally sharia law honor killings.

    We have lost texas

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  • [–] -4 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

    Literally a drunk and completely incompetent gun owner. He should be punished and made an example of. Your statement makes this sound completely intentional. The court appears to believe the claim that her death was accidental. I don't doubt that he had no intentions of killing his daughter.

    This should be a textbook example for gun licensing and requirements of safe storage. This man's negligence cost him his daughter and the court decided this was enough. I don't think the court went far enough and I think this should be the basis for further legislation, but let's not turn this case into a bogeyman about honor killings.

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  • [+] -18 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

    Ya when people say Dems have a chance of winning Texas. Call that person a moron and go on with your day

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  • [–] 19 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

    Like nearly all the US, the cities are heavily blue and the rural parts are heavily red. The only difference between blue states and red states is which side of the halfway line it’s tipped towards. And nearly every state is close to the halfway mark—including Texas.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

    Texas has more dem voters than some states have people.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 hour ago

    I'd rather KILL my OWN DAUGHTER then to say Trump is WRONG!

    -LITERALLY Republicans!

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  • As I say, the love they have for even their own children is entirely conditional. They will make you the enemy and kill you at a moment's notice. If you have MAGA in your family, kick them out of what they can come to. Ostracization from family and society is the only nice thing we can do against them.

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  • [–] 1 point 18 minutes ago

    Just traitor Texas things.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 hour ago

    "Honor" killings: now in American flavor, 100% idiotic MAGAt approved!

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  • [–] 18 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 child)

    I hope they were immediately released if you can't get an indictment. The reason they couldn't get an indictment is because the prosecutor didn't really want one. Grand juries only really hear what the prosecutor wants to tell them. That's why it's said you can get an indictment on a ham sandwich. If the prosecutor just said "he shot her after an argument" with no exculpatory evidence he would've gotten an indictment and that would've been okay and cool with the US supreme Court.

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  • [–] 3 points 17 minutes ago

    This is important to remember. Grand juries are simple majority. No defense is present. If they don't get an indictment it's because they didn't want it.

    Remember that every time a right wing darling (like a cop or maga drunk) gets away without an indictment.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 hour ago

    It's pretty clear he deserves prison

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  • [–] 13 points 2 hours ago* (4 children)

    Coroners don't determine whether a death is lawful or not...

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  • [–] 48 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    Family members were in tears during the hearing at Cheshire Coroner's Court as Coroner Jacqueline Devonish announced that she found Lucy Harrison died due to unlawful killing on the grounds of gross negligence manslaughter.

    The coroner said: "To shoot her through the chest whilst she was standing would have required him to have been pointing the gun at his daughter, without checking for bullets, and pulling the trigger.

    "I find these actions to be reckless."

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  • [–] 24 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    Yeah, still. Coroner determines cause of death and manner of death. Not what the charges are.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 hour ago

    This is a statement from a court case though.

    When called to court to testify coroners do absolutely give their opinion about the deaths.

    Also reminds me of Gary Webb's coronor saying there is a "distinct possibility" that someone could shoot themselves twice in the head. And he wasn't even in court

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  • [–] 0 points 1 hour ago

    I don't understand what this is intended to prove?

    Coroners can have opinions but @village604@adultswim.fan is correct they don't determine whether its lawful or not.. that is literally the point of the court case.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    This kind of thing tends to work completely differently depending upon municipality, county, and state.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

    Words mean different things in different contexts. A legal finding is different than a coroner's findings and a coroner's opinion is different than a judges legal opinion. A coroner saying something is unlawful is different than a judge saying something is unlawful.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

    They kinda do. There are five possible causes of death: homicide, suicide, accidental, natural causes, and unknown. All deaths not determined to be accidental or natural require a police investigation.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago

    He doesn't even have any remorse for this you can tell by his statement.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 child)