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TIL that a man killed his daughter in Texas after arguing about Donald Trump. The local jury declined to indict him. He was immediatly released. (abc6onyourside.com)

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg1ex3w91no

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[–] village604@adultswim.fan 13 points 3 hours ago* (4 children)

Coroners don't determine whether a death is lawful or not...

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 51 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Family members were in tears during the hearing at Cheshire Coroner's Court as Coroner Jacqueline Devonish announced that she found Lucy Harrison died due to unlawful killing on the grounds of gross negligence manslaughter.

The coroner said: "To shoot her through the chest whilst she was standing would have required him to have been pointing the gun at his daughter, without checking for bullets, and pulling the trigger.

"I find these actions to be reckless."

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[–] Triumph@fedia.io 24 points 3 hours ago (1 child)

Yeah, still. Coroner determines cause of death and manner of death. Not what the charges are.

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[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 hours ago

This is a statement from a court case though.

When called to court to testify coroners do absolutely give their opinion about the deaths.

Also reminds me of Gary Webb's coronor saying there is a "distinct possibility" that someone could shoot themselves twice in the head. And he wasn't even in court

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[–] 6_electrons@piefed.social 2 points 2 hours ago

I don't understand what this is intended to prove?

Coroners can have opinions but @village604@adultswim.fan is correct they don't determine whether its lawful or not.. that is literally the point of the court case.

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Words mean different things in different contexts. A legal finding is different than a coroner's findings and a coroner's opinion is different than a judges legal opinion. A coroner saying something is unlawful is different than a judge saying something is unlawful.

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[–] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 hours ago (1 child)

This kind of thing tends to work completely differently depending upon municipality, county, and state.

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[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

And in Texas the coroner doesn't. They determine cause of death.

A DA or jury determines lawfulness.

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[–] LostCarcosan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

Okay so what point are you making? The coroner didn't determine lawfulness, the court did. He just offered his opinion, as coroners do, about the actions that killed the woman.

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[–] gastroglizzy@piefed.social 3 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

They kinda do. There are five possible causes of death: homicide, suicide, accidental, natural causes, and unknown. All deaths not determined to be accidental or natural require a police investigation.

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[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 2 hours ago

That still isn't a determination of lawfulness. Homicide just means a person killed a person.

The DA or jury determines lawfulness.

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