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submitted 10 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) by Abyssian@lemmy.world to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

People love using thinly veiled existing racist/homophobic slurs against AI. "Tinskin", "wireback", "cogsucker", "clanker."

Yes, I know that "clanker" was in Star Wars. That's not what made it so popular, and the majority of people using it today likely never saw it there. People also use "clanka" and leave comments about using "the hard r."

We all know what you're talking about. You know when you're typing it out. It's not alright.

There are people places like Lemmy who spent their lives being called or watching their families be called the terms people are so lightly tossing about today. Do you really think that doesn't bother any of them?

It seems like so many people were just eagerly waiting for something they felt it was socially acceptable to hurl slurs and abuse at, and happily reached for terms just like the ones they already knew.

Some kids at my niece’s school now think it’s cute to stare at black kids and talk loudly about how much they hate “clankas” making it very clear what they mean by it.

It's one thing to dislike AI, how it's been developed, and the intent of replacing human jobs. To insult AI and the people behind it.

It's something completely different to jump in with constant streams of thinly veiled existing slurs that can and do hurt real people.

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[-] JonsJava@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

Obvious shit post.

I'll be monitoring. If it gets out of hand, I'll be removing it.

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[-] wingnut@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Thank you for posting Abyssian. The world really doesn't need more slurs.

What's that meme Lemmy likes to whip out? "it is the tool of the enemy, we do not need it, we do not use it" ...yea, well, that. Come on people.

[-] prowe45@piefed.social 6 points 3 hours ago

You know, overall I think I agree with you, and I suspect you'd be facing a lot less pushback if you'd made your argument a bit more generic and not specifically about AI. If the argument is "co-opting existing hate speech language is not cool, even if you're using it to talk about things that most people dislike, and even if those things aren't capable of having feelings of their own." If I saw a guy on the street stub his toe on a mailbox and then heard him angrily call it a "metal f*g", I'd think he was a weird homophobe. I still remember people in the early 00's using the term "wigger" to refer to Caucasian rapper wannabes, and how it pretty quickly fell out of use because it was obviously gross, even for the time.

I must not run in the same kinds of circles as you, online or IRL, because I think I've only heard one or two people use the term clanker and I haven't heard anyone use the other terms you mentioned. The times I've heard/read clanker, it didn't seem like the people were trying to make allusions to the n word. They certainly weren't doing any of that "clanka", "don't say the hard R, yuck yuck" type stuff or I definitely would have clocked what they were doing. The other terms you mentioned are, to me, way more obviously derived from existing slurs.

[-] Abyssian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

It's definitely not something just starting. Any time someone tries to talk about it they get comments like this.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I don’t know why you’re being downvoted so much. Slurs are immature, and crude; the subject honestly has nothing to do with it.

I’ve never seen someone else hurl a slur and feel good about it myself.

[-] Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

It's weird as hell. I don't understand how people can get that using slurs against other people is bad yet fail to understand that putting a small spin on that same slur and using it all the time against something different is still going to harm people and still going to end up being used by racists directly as a replacement for it's origin word.

My niece goes to school and has kids loudly talking about how much they hate "clankers" while staring at her. She's 10 years old. I try to discuss the harm in using these terms and multiple people have responded by using the same slurs against me and my family. Someone said that because of my display name I must be a child rapist.

I feel like I took crazy pills. I guess I didn't miss the civil rights movement by as much as I'd always thought.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Also, yes. I don't like it when crude behavior is called out, and the other party immediately attacks you as a "supporter" of whatever they're attacking. That particularly rubs me the wrong way, it happens to me all the time on Lemmy... and the admins/mods of some instances/communities are completely fine with it. They do it themselves.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Don't take it personally.

Lemmy is really... militant. A large fraction of people here seem to be okay with that kind of behavior as long as its at the right target. And I think social media has rubbed off on many parents, who instill that in their kids.

I am not a parent, so you probably shouldn't listen to me. But. If I was talking to my 10 year old, I'd try to explain why the other kids are using that kind of slang. I think it would make more sense than simply telling them friends are saying bad things. Kids are smarter than people given them credit for, in my experience, as long as you frame things within their experience.

[-] Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

She knows what the n word is. But kids get in trouble using that so they're migrating to the shiny new c word everyone's so comfortable using in just the same ways.

Lemmy seems to have a really uncomfortable and unexpected amount of hate. The minute someone doesn't fit in an established tribe so many people here become rabid.

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 13 points 9 hours ago

Agreed. They shouldn't be thinly veiled.

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[-] Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 hours ago

While I’ve never seen nor heard them used before, I’m with you on existing slurs being slightly tweaked for use in other contexts (e.g. wetback to wireback) being in poor taste.

What are the racist or homophobic roots of “clanker”? Sharing the “-er” suffix with another word doesn’t count, that’s just the nature of language.

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[-] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 3 points 8 hours ago

I hate to break it to you, but they're not the same words. Also cocksucker isn't racial and hardly counts as a slur. Stop assuming intent where there isn't any just because you are conflating terms.

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[-] one_old_coder@piefed.social 3 points 9 hours ago

We shouldn't hurt real people who enjoy replacing human jobs. Ok.

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[-] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

You shouldn't be racist against people because that's unethical. But this is against AI, and AI isn't people. And because it's socially acceptable to say that, people have a lower threshold. Then there's also good reasons to say it. There's incredible unfairness in the way AI is implemented, who it affects, the problems it exacerbates and the side-effects it comes with. This is why people like saying it, as a form of protest.

And I agree with them. I don't say it, but I can emphasize with most of those people and it's generally useful to highlight the wrongs it is doing.

Now it's hard for me to understand how this affects people who are not implicated in the development of AIs. I can agree not everyone who develops AIs is bad, but the development of AI as a whole comes with some obvious baggage. And you're not calling the people clankers, you're calling the AIs clankers.

So in short: I feel like "clanker" is not hurtful, and it's fine to say and I have a hard time understanding your issues with it, if you're not an AI.

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[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Aww, did someone insult your clanker girlfriend? 🤖

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