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[–] 166 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

The Chinese aren't ahead of the curb here, they are significantly behind. Flavored cigs got banned in most countries many years ago because they did too good a job. I expect the same thing will happen in China soon.

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  • [–] 116 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    One of the reasons they were banned was also because it made them more attractive to children and teenagers. That's also one of the reasons a lot of places don't allow fancy designs on cigarette packs and it forces them to show those gruesome pictures of throat cancer and stuff.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child)

    It's a bullshit justification. Adults like flavors other than plain tobacco and menthol.

    If it was really about protecting children, they'd ban flavored alcohol too.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

    It's not just about protecting children, it's about protecting everyone.

    Nicotine is wildly addictive. Full stop. It and a host of other chemicals also cause a wide range of health issues that greatly strain the medical system, and put strains on healthcare budgets.

    Since banning the product outright will likely not work, due to the aforementioned addictiveness, sensible countries have adopted a slightly different approach of making the cancer sticks as unappealing as possible, both to keep kids from starting and to help people already addicted quit.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    host of other chemicals also cause a wide range of health issues

    It's mostly the tobacco causing health issues, not the wonderfully addictive nicotine. But yeah, it's a good thing that flavored cigarettes are banned.

    Though it seems like big tobacco found a loophole on the first day, as you can still get menthol cigarettes in EU... it's just not as strongly minted as it was prior to the ban.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I meant other chemicals in the tobacco.

    https://inis.iaea.org/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/42/070/42070498.pdf

    And that's the tip of the iceberg, there are chemical washes, pesticides, and other shit that's just as bad.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago

    The worst is I could smoke 4 full strength hand rolled cigarettes, with all the harm of tobacco, and still be craving a single boxed cigarette because the additives and poisons they mix are missing from my bagged tobacco.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    Except cigarettes are a state-run monopoly over there.

    The main reason things are going so slowly is that they can't bring themselves to stop making so much money.

    The same institution that's supposed to promote the facts about the health-risks of smoking is the one making stupid amounts of money making and selling it.

    If they ever stop, it'll be because they transition to other nicotine products, or shift to exporting the product to developing countries (which they already are).

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  • [–] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    unlikely. Basically all cigarettes are produced by CNTC or one of their subsidiaries.

    CNTC is owned by the state and rakes in a lot of money for the government.

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    [–] 69 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    Flavored cigs are forbidden in Germany. Guess that's good.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I remember rumours at school that the strawberry flavour could get you instant addicted.

    I doubt that is true, but I considered it a positive that people were worried about it.

    Then the modern vape cartridge got invented and just like that the youth is back to paying companies to inhale poison.

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    [–] 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Is that gold line where the filter ends?

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  • [–] 18 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    So theres this american dude on youtube who cycles through China and the way he connects to locals is usually by offering cigarettes. Very fun videos; "Bicycling trough China, one cigarette at a time" was the first I think I saw.

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    [–] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children)
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    [–] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    cigarette

    every bite

    unsubscribes

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  • [–] 17 points 1 week ago* (4 children)

    lots of food products taste boring in the west because

    • we've been told that stuff that tastes good is probably full of additives and therefore bad for your health (think of all the chemicals!)
    • and because of the same christian mindset that got us the cornflakes:

    Cereal would create fortunes and create multinational companies that we still know today. But Dr. John Harvey Kellogg , the inventor of corn flakes, did not care about profits. For him, cereal was not just a health food because it would improve Americans digestion. He believed a diet centered on bland foods like cereal would lead Americans away from sin. One very specific sin: masturbation.

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    [–] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Or just eat ice cream that isn't laced with a highly addictive substance.

    No?

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  • [–] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I want my smokes to make me feel like I'm dying a little bit, thanks.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Ah yes rhe typical "light the filter and smoke it from the wrong side" people.

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    [–] 11 points 1 week ago

    Hmmm cancer scent.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    In Iraq rhey have cigs with two different flavor capsules in the filter, it was a novelty. I do remember carrying crushes at bars, in case you met someone who liked menthols. I'm glad I quit, but it was fun at the time.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago

    I don't miss the smoking so much. I miss the social aspects. I met so many people just by smoking outside occasionally. Didn't even have to do anything. Just stand there and stuff starts happening around you.

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    [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    I don't like smoking. I think I ought to be free to decide that for myself. I can't, or by proxy, make that determination for anyone else - even though I don't think they should be smoking if they choose to.

    If it didn't make so much money, kids wouldn't be vaping. It's an integral part of the American performance that, "nothing we can do about it", is just what everone sees, and therefore thinks. We could prosecute parents for letting their kids have them, prosecute the gas stations for peddling it, prosecute the companies making them cheap and disposable. All of that would turn off the faucet on a billion dollar industry though, so it becomes part of our performance in one way or another. We have fundamentally bet that our world is a better place with smoking children in it, than without. That is what Capitalism does, that is how it does it. That is why it needs to be controlled like a rabid dog on a leash.

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    [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago

    Then nut cancer from the mystery carcinogens.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago

    This is great it's basically saying: this lung cancer tastes great!

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