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[–] 171 points 2 months ago (44 children)

Let me guess, their "expert" says to double down.

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  • [–] 121 points 2 months ago (29 children)

    In many cases, parent-child estrangements are a cycle — "they'll re-engage, then they'll fall out again," Blake said. "One of the key things from the research is that adult children will reach out and if they see nothing has changed, they'll estrange again."

    No, I actually think it's a pretty good article, and comes surprisingly close to outright saying the parents are the problem

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  • [–] 47 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    In my experience, even when I've framed it as "something needs to change" to try to be less direct in saying that they need to change, they still just say "correct, you do need to change." Hopefully some people will get it, though.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 months ago

    Lmao that’s the hardest thing is realizing that there’s no magic words that will ever pierce their skull. They keep acting like you speak a foreign language because it’s easier to fake “not getting it” rather than come out and say the truth which is “I don’t value you enough to change my behavior”.

    Once I gave up and quit my life got a lot easier.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    A few years ago, my dad was upset about how "you can't say man or woman anymore. How are you gonna call the cops on someone robbing you? Say 'It was a person average height!' Or they'll arrest you for using the word man!"

    I just asked if he was fucking stupid and does that sound like something that would even remotely happen, then said I was leaving if that's how he thinks and left. Ignored any attempts at contact until he apologized and admitted he might be a little incorrect, which was progress enough to start.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    I'm happy that your dad was smart enough to realize that he was being a dumbass and apologized.

    I haven't spoken to my uncle in a year and change because the stupid fuck tries to compare the horrors conservatives had to endure under Biden to people being snatched off the street by masked thugs or being murdered in broad daylight by ICE. I told the dumb fuck he needed to do some thinking and realize why I was mad if he wanted to talk to me again, and I finally blocked him from even texting me cuz the stupid fuck repeatedly texted me me to call him about one thing or another to try to get me to drop my boundary.

    I cut my mother out of my life years before (and he agreed with my decision then LOL) for dumb bullshit, I don't know why he thought he'd be any different.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Do they ever hit you with this one?

    "Take responsibility for your actions/decisions!" While ignoring their own responsibility in it...

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

    and use any leverage you got, emotional or material. (It was both in my case)

    No, seriously, I'd love to know what the "expert" said.

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    The article itself is boilerplate advice. Basic stuff: really listen, admit your own mistakes, don't get angry. Avoid labeling. What's of course more interesting is why adult children choose to cut ties with their FOX-infested parents. And that article is extremely problematic.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

    They quoted the same Texas psychologist for both, and lordy does he come off as much more of a far right loon in the latter.

    For context, he blames "victim culture," "gender ideology," "therapy" and "tiktok" for estrangement. Pretty clear to see where his biases lie.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    "Therapy is so bad for the children! It's turning them against their abusive parents by allowing them to start the process of healing, after which they begin to realize that healing will always be limited to a cycle of progression and regression until they cut out the toxic people who repeatedly sabotage their growth every time they start to show improvement. I'm so tired of this victim culture where the children of abusive parents act like they're the victims! Why can't they just take responsibility for their own decisions, such as being born to a particular family, or being neglected and constantly put down by the very people who are supposed to be a source of safety and stability in their lives? When I was their age everyone in the neighborhood's dads were all war veterans with PTSD who would beat the shit out of us and send us to the store to buy milk and cigarettes. We all turned out fine! Now get off my lawn."

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    [–] 102 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I had a read through, and they’re entirely not stating anything about “quit being fascist,” naturally.

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  • [–] 57 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    "Just ignore your adult child. Fox news will take care of you into your advancing old age."

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Im morbidly fascinated how mainstream media will pivot as their primary audience dies out. They aren't long for new media formats, so maybe they will die out as well

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  • [–] 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (23 children)

    FauxNews parents article

    Expert is from Texas, just kinda want to put that out there lol article is about how you would expect it to be feels a bit manipulative while also sounding professional.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (21 children)

    I'd just like to say that being from Texas by itself doesn't indicate anything. Many million people here are not Republicans

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    No, but the Republicans are extra shitty there.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Are they though? Republicans are awful everywhere. I also think the Texas Legislature is a surprising place, the House in particular, where rural Republicans align with Democrats on a number of issues and regularly kill bills together. Of course none of that stuff hits national headlines though, just the bad stuff that gets through. All I'm saying is thank gods I don't live in Florida

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  • [–] 50 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    This seems a good excuse to repost his fascinating post about estrangement: https://issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/missing-missing-reasons/

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    [–] 47 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    "If someone says, ‘When you criticize my weight, I left dinner feeling really, really upset,’ that's a fact. That's the person's interpretation," he said.

    I don't feel like thats an interpretation. Why call it a fact and interpretation, did you fail high-school writer?

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago

    I took it to mean that feelings are facts - meaning the parent should take it as a true statement about their child’s feelings and not try to argue with them about why their feelings are wrong.

    Not well phrased at all.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago

    It seems poorly worded. I think they were trying to say that the person's interpretation of what happened is a fact. Basically that someone can't handwave away how a person says they feel as if it's not true; how a person says they genuinely felt about something is true to them. I assume it is supposed to be targeted towards estranged parents who constantly dismissed their child's emotions and literally cannot understand how that is a bad thing to do.

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    [–] 30 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    The article's not that bad, some folk aren't happy!

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    Without reading more, that last one seems pretty rational at least. I imagine the 'See More' label is hiding some absolute venom though, or maybe just "it's their loss, I've no need to reflect on how my actions led to this outcome".

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    [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Murdered by words.

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