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Mapped: How 6 Billionaire Family Fortunes Fund Project 2025 (www.desmog.com)

submitted 1 day ago by DigiHippie@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

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It’s not a left or right battle like the Epstein class wants you to believe. It’s the Billionaires and Trillionaires vs everyone else.

The United States needs tons of millionaires with less billionaires and trillionaires. Also, the United States needs healthcare as a human right.

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Confiscate their ENTIRE estates, and use it to start the "America First Fund" (irony intended), which will be the seed money for all the Social programs we'll start when we take back power - health care, college/trade school, UBI, pre-k, public schools, etc.

Also use the America First Fund to collect MAGA fines ($1 billion minimum fine per count, no matter how small the crime), including the corporate tariff refunds. Those tariffs have badly hurt the American citizens, and the refunds should directly benefit THEM.

Make the American citizens aware of the America First Fund, and make them understand that this is THEIR money. The amount in the American First Fund should be announced on the news every night, just like the stock market scores. The rich can see the Dow rise, and the rest of America can see the America First Fund rise, and demand more. Whenever a major corporate fine is announced, the announcement should include it was put into the America First Fund.

We should be demanding that the government grow the America First Fund, the way Sociopathic Oligarchs scream for the stock market to climb, which means more criminal and civil prosecutions against corporations. By the time they learn the hard way to behave themselves, the America First Fund will be well-funded, and producing its own money.

Leave those Oligarch families destitute, and ineligible to receive the benefits that their fortunes paid for. Let them experience for themselves what it feels like for good citizens to have what they need, while the broke oligarch families go without, and get despised for it.

[-] krisevol@lemmus.org -4 points 23 hours ago

Were would the money come from to fund the programs or liquidate assets?

[-] DillDough@lemmy.zip 5 points 23 hours ago

Use the existing civil asset forfeiture system, this literally is a thing used against regular people it just doesn't get used against ultra rich and powerful, that needs to change.

[-] krisevol@lemmus.org -4 points 22 hours ago

I get that part, not where does the money come from?

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 19 hours ago

Where does the money from ANY corporate or civil fine come from? That's not our problem, that's the MAGA criminals' problem. They'll find the money to pay up or they'll go to jail.

If you mean where does the money come from to start the administration of the fund, that shouldn't cost that much, and there are already fines that have been collected that should be allocated to this initiative to cover it.

For instance, the money from the Tariffs that SCOTUS determined was illegally collected, should all go into America First Fund. If it's already been given to the corporations, take it back, and put it in the Fund. Those corporations didn't pay that money, the citizens did, and the corporation shouldn't get that windfall, the citizens should. Amazon collected $640 million in tariff re-payments, which they kept, even though their customers paid all that money. Why should Bezos get a huge windfall from our illegally stolen money? Take it away from him and put it in the America First Fund, where it belongs.

This won't cost the taxpayers a penny, and it will bring life-changing benefits to every American Citizen.

[-] krisevol@lemmus.org 0 points 19 hours ago

I'm asking where the money comes from when we take all the billionaires assets.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 18 hours ago

From the billionaire's assets.

I don't understand the question. Are you wondering how we convert things like yachts and planes into cash? Sell them to rich people who aren't shitheads, if you can find any, although I suspect seeing the worst rich people get executed, imprisoned, and their entire fortunes confiscated, will convince the rest to behave themselves, and pay their taxes without complaining.

We could also operate their comfiscated businesses for the benefit of the American citizens, with the profits going into the America First Fund, instead of some Sociopathic Oligarch's Child Rape Fund.

[-] krisevol@lemmus.org -1 points 17 hours ago

That is what I'm asking, where the money comes from, but it sounds like you wouldn't have any buyers for these assets. Already rich people pay they're taxes so that wouldn't change anything.

So you have a plan on how to get the cash to fund these programs your want with these assets?

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

This person is either extremely confused or acting in bad faith, you don't need to engage further with them, piccolo.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 49 points 1 day ago

It’s not a left or right battle like the Epstein class wants you to believe.

I mean. It is, tho. It's literally a plan by the right. And the Epstein class is literally the right establishment, his best friend is literally their winning presidential candidate, twice.

[-] DrakeAlbrecht@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

It's a plan by the wealthy, who couldn't give less of a shit about abortion, or bible verses in schools, or trans athletes. The wealthy have co-opted the right to implement their plan for them.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Some of them legit care about those things, too. But they also know they can escape to freedom since they are the true "globalists", ironically. Money can go virtually anywhere, and people with enough of it can also go virtually anywhere as well. They can easily escape the hell that the conservative-created Jesusland would be...

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

The distinction is that a rural american can believe they are a right-wing and no one will deny them that affiliation. So the framing of 'left vs right' captures those rural america folks.

They cannot possibly consider themselves on the inside among the billionaire class, and Epstein class is a good pejorative to highlight precisely how much those folks get away with that rural americans don't see.

You are factually correct, that the entirety of the 'right' in practice is controlled by those hyper wealthy interests, but the framing should focus on the owner class's misbehavior to everyone's detriment rather than implicitly excluding whatever other conservative values the population may possess.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

The only war is a class war.

[-] Capable_Coping@piefed.social 3 points 21 hours ago

yes, and right wing politics are the politics of the ruling class.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 22 hours ago

Indeed and its a clear right-left split

[-] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

It's amazing the things you learn when your primary source of information is not focks nooz

[-] DigiHippie@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

Forgot to add, Musk makes #7 and he pledged 100 million on the midterms alone. His dad also fucked his stepdaughter and is a pedo.

[-] DillDough@lemmy.zip 6 points 23 hours ago

Elon is also a pedo, we have direct communication between him and Epstein where Elon was literally begging to go to the crazier pedo parties.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

And he paid $50 Billion Dollars to buy Twitter and used it to support Trump and conservatives, and he was literally given an (illegal) position in the trump admin to (illegally) fire people and shut down programs.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Just a bit of clarification: Musk owns Twitter, and has said he has no interest in TikTok. That's owned by a group that includes Larry Ellison, who is the 2nd richest man, and has been buying up media companies like CBS, HBO, Warner Bros, CNN, Paramount, etc.

Ellison is every bit as psychopathic as Musk, and deserves the same punishment.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

yeah sorry typo

But also a correction to your comment, TikTok is owned and operated by the Chinese Military, the Algorithm is still centralized in Beijing and will not be moving. What US investors have bought and put on the cloud was USA user data.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 20 hours ago

Thanks for that clarification.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

Bradley, Coors, Koch, Scaife [Mellon], Seid, and Uihlein

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

Confiscate every penny from these treasonous families.

The Koch Family is particularly guilty of right-wing treason, with their founding patriarch Fred Koch being one of the founders and primary financial supporters of the ultra-conservative John Birch Society. They've been causing conservative trouble for decades, and it's time to strip them of their financial power. We would remove a gun from a violent offender, and the Koch family has used their money as a violent weapon against the American people for many years. It's time to confiscate their weapons.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I'd like to add the Anschutz to the list.

[-] krisevol@lemmus.org 2 points 23 hours ago

Elon has created thousands of millionaires.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Remember, though: being obscenely rich is not elite.

The term "elite" only applies to people with who racked up lots of student debt going to college, know more than conservatives, believe in science and human rights and so on, and who don't vote Republican.

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 7 points 1 day ago

Honestly attempting to fit their rhetoric into anything coherent has been proven, endlessly, to be a complete waste of time.

They clearly aren’t bound by anything they say. Their positions on everything from climate to religion, the economy, immigration, social theory, and certainly any topic with moral implications, are always a facade delivered in bad faith and in service of an explicitly immoral outcome.

Those who repeat their positions, the rank and file “believer,” might feel strongly about them, strongly enough to rage about them online or inflict them upon those they once loved, but never enough to remember an inkling of that fervor the very next day when they are handed a contradiction by one of their trusted outlets, be they pundits or preachers.

Among those lost to RWA, the feelings themselves are the only tenants of their new religion which remain consistent, whatever topic they are currently led to obsess over, and those feelings can be named: fear, anger, and hate.

Fear, anger, and hate becomes the crux of their entire belief system, whatever religion or sociopolitical ideal they profess. Little else of who they once were exists after those feelings germinate and mature. Fear, anger, and hate replaces nearly all of them until it is basically all that remains.

There must be some glimmer of humanity left inside their withered hearts and darkened minds, otherwise we wouldn’t have anecdotes of individuals who escape the cult, who look back and no longer recognize themselves. But the longer they remain inside, the weaker that glimmer becomes and harder it is to see.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

So it’s all over the corporate news, right?

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