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[-] owl@infosec.pub 19 points 7 hours ago
[-] victorz@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

350 shootings in 2023 is crazy. That's actually so many. How tragic.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

We recently had 6 mass shootings in under 48 hours!

[-] Supercrunchy@programming.dev 43 points 14 hours ago
[-] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 27 points 13 hours ago
[-] Sv443@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I was 7 when the Winnenden shooting happened (it's relatively close by). It doesn't come close to how bad some of the shootings in the US are but I still remember it as a core memory.
When your society isn't used to violence, a shooting sends an actual anti-violence message. In the states it seems to only instigate political drama and grifters and encourages more people to do the same.
I wanna say guns are the problem but that would be very naive. The easy access means the barrier of entry is SO much lower, allowing other problems to be magnified and lead to the actual shooting. It's such an insidiously deep rooted problem that I couldn't even begin to try to suggest how to fix it.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 34 minutes ago

guns are the problem but that would be very naive.

Meth isn't the problem. The real problem is lack of dopamine that causes people to seek pleasure.

A bad diet doesn't cause obesity. It's the person's mental state that causes them to seek out food as comfort.

The only problem with this viewpoint is that people are inherently fucking crazy and you'll never ever fix that. So you need to restrict the things that allow them to hurt other people with their crazy. And when they're going to hurt themselves with their crazy, you do your best to help coach and guide and support them.

[-] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 1 points 46 minutes ago

I think Michael Moore hit it pretty much straight on the head.

Having guns makes people feel empowered against others. A wimp can take down basically anyone if they create the right circumstances. So when people feel wronged, there's this huge itch to see that as a viable solution.

There isn't a single solution, but taking away (easy) access to guns is certainly a hugely efficient step

[-] zener_diode@feddit.org 39 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

That page lists attacks in general, and not just at schools but also universities. Out of the 25 attacks listed for Germany (so since 1990), only 11 are shootings, and 14 have no deaths at all. So, you're right, Germany does know what school schootings are.

But compare this to a total of 67 (damn that number!) in the same timeframe in the UK ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom ), despite the UK containg about 20 million less people than Germany. Unfortunately, Wikipedia doesn't have a comparable list for France.

But both of those numbers just cannot compare with the US, where just the school shootings that Wikipedia lists (not all attacks, just shootings) add up to 882 over the same time frame. And its not due to higer population, the US only has about 4 times as many people as Germany.

Sorry, I realise you're kinda just trying to say, school attacks do happen in Germay too, and you're right. But you sent me down a rabbit hole. And the number of school shootings in Germany is so low that as a parent you can reasonably assume it won't happen (and they are rarely big enough to land in the news), whereas in the US it seems to be something that everyone thinks about, that schols plan for, and that has a not inconsiderable chance of happening.

Edit: spelling

[-] banause@feddit.org 8 points 12 hours ago

There is also this important but depressing website. https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

[-] rethnor@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 hours ago

Oh man no school shootings during WW2, must have been a peaceful time! / s

[-] ChristerMLB@piefed.social 4 points 9 hours ago

don't mention ze war!

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago

No its because everyone was on vacation!

[-] daggermoon@piefed.world 5 points 9 hours ago

We hate our lives.

[-] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 59 points 16 hours ago

Meme Misuse, in my Lemmy?

It’s more likely than you think.

[-] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago

people here really don't know how to do memes

most of the time the meme is either 5-15+ years old or the meme format is horribly butchered

i really don't understand why though

Because nobody gives a shit lol

[-] DScratch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 hours ago

Sometimes I feel like a grammar Nazi when it comes to meme use. But I just need to remember that I’m definitely right.

[-] awmwrites@lemmy.cafe 63 points 17 hours ago
[-] jordanpwnsyou@lemmy.zip 44 points 16 hours ago

lol yeah, right? Being able to say “every year,” would be nothing short of a miraculous improvement for us…

[-] huppakee@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago

Imagine living in a country where having one school shooting every year would be a miraculous improvement. I really feel for the US.

[-] SolacefromSilence@fedia.io 10 points 15 hours ago

More likely daily/weekly unfortunately

[-] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 9 points 13 hours ago

IIRC some days don't have a school shooting. Not sure about weeks or months though.

[-] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 12 points 13 hours ago

At least monthly, on average

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 7 points 13 hours ago

Yearly school shooting? Like with camera?

[-] Angular@crazypeople.online 21 points 16 hours ago

It’s because we (Americans) not only hate everyone but also ourselves.

[-] BucketBong@p.hobo.social 12 points 15 hours ago

We all fucking hate ourselves, that's no excuse.

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[-] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz -1 points 6 hours ago

England is more into knife attacks. Easy access to guns is the major factor in the US. With parents starting to receive prison sentences for their kids actions, we will have to see if the number starts to drop. Best solution, of course, is to get guns out of the hands of the disturbed and get them help.

[-] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 hours ago

The UK has fewer knife attacks per person than the US.

It's just that there's so much gun violence, no one talks about it.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Tbf, this paints the picture that the issue isn't "the guns." If we also have more knife attacks, "guns" can't be "the reason" Americans are more violent than their oft compared counterparts. I'd wager it's something in the absolutely well known cocktail of economic disparity, general hopelessness, social isolation, instability abound, the pollution from chemical plants that led to our past serial killer problem (no really), and all the other factors that we know can contribute to more violence in a region.

It's also more helpful to compare a country to itself, it's possible factors other than "guns" can be the real reason. For instance, Japan may be less violent because they don't have guns, or they may be less violent because they're quietly an authoritarian police state that has police in your district inspect your house once a year "just in case" and they can hold you indefinitely if you're simply suspected and can force confessions leading to a suspiciously high conviction rate (spoiler: false convictions). Without being able to force people to confess to crimes they didn't do (legally, it does happen but it isn't allowed), who knows how that'd work here.

So with that in mind, comparing America now to America then, violent crime in the US has dropped steadily since 1993; and gun ownership has only gone up in that same time, in 2004 our "assault weapons ban" expired and violent crime is still falling, despite public perceptions fueled by 24/7 news media and their "if it bleeds it leads" scaremongering for ad revenue, of course.

[-] laurenceOfSuburbia@lemmy.world -4 points 5 hours ago
[-] PlaneMaker@feddit.org 5 points 5 hours ago

Just to an another source to the other comment: www.datapandas.org/ranking/stabbing-deaths-by-country

[-] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago

Numbers from elsewhere in the conversation.

https://feddit.org/comment/14251305

[-] PlaneMaker@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago

Where does this false confidence come from?

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