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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Can confirm a Masters is pointless. Especially when everyone else at your table in the pub has a PhD.

[-] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

I’m laughing to think what happens when the market is saturated with PhDs.

Will everyone need to be a professor to be competitive?

[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 40 minutes ago

You can always get a job as a prison guard. Sidebar, you get a job that's below you and then start a business on paper that's doing something relevant to your degree field and you hire yourself. Then you put that shit on your resume, wham bam thank you mam, one year later and some interview preparation you got your pick of the litter.

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 3 points 49 minutes ago

My retirement plan is a tent in the park.

[-] VirtigoMommy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 minutes ago

Mines a hole in the dirt

[-] uberfreeza@lemmy.world 16 points 2 hours ago

This thread has a lot of people saying things like "don't get a degree" or "get a trade cert" or "work in a different field to get experience" which I feel completely side-steps many issues and the realities that many people face. It's just a fundamentally broken system. The value of degrees fluctuates so much because of a political climate that has the stability of a pane of glass being violently thrown off of a building and a job market that prioritizes either posting ghost jobs to overwork employees to death or outsourcing its candidate search to whoever can guess the most buzzwords in an application.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago

While volatile is a good way to describe the day to day. It's been trending worse for many years now.

[-] Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 53 minutes ago

Pfff you only have a PhD? You need at least 3 PhDs to apply for a job

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 hour ago

Anon was 23 in 2022.

Rest assured, it's much worse now.

[-] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

Glad I didn't go to uni. Wish I did an apprenticeship sooner.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

Honestly, if you're in this situation, and you have any interest at all in education, or just think it wouldn't drive you mad, look into substitute teaching. In my area the only requirement to be a substitute is to have any bachelor's degree and to be able to pass a very rigorous background check. (Think fingerprinting.) I'm currently exploring a mid-career transition to K12 teaching, and I'm planning on doing a bunch of substitute teaching in the coming school year. Substitutes make about $260/day in my district. Not amazing money, but it still comes to a solid $30/hr or so. And there's enough demand at least where I'm at that they often have postings go unfilled.

And hell, just getting out of the house and regularly interacting with people will do wonders for your mental health. I wouldn't recommend substitute teaching as a permanent career. But for someone in transition or trying to get started, it's a great option. It's a very useful way of getting past the trap of "I need experience to get the job, but I need the job to get experience." At least in my area, if you've got a bachelor's and a clean criminal record, you can become a substitute.

[-] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

If I wanted good advice I'd go see a shrink, not a green text forum. Nerd. /s

[-] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago

Greentexts are a lot cheaper though. Kinda like self medicating with alcohol.

[-] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 2 points 53 minutes ago

Yeah! Drinky-drinky no thinky! Just like dad taught me.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

$260 a day is quite decent

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

In my area, the average monthly rent for a two bedroom apartment is $1500/month, or $18,000 per year. If you maxed out substitute teaching, teaching every day you could? That would bring in about $45k/year. And the job comes with no health insurance, retirement, or other benefits. On days you don't work, you don't get paid. Full time teaching positions do have benefits and pay better, but those require more extensive licensing.

You could earn a subsistence living substituting where I'm located, especially if you got roommates. But it's not a long-term viable career if you want to have any hope of home ownership, retirement, etc. A great option for those in transition, but not a career.

[-] Starski@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

I was going to say lol, that's double the average wage in my city

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

It's a maximum $45k/year job that offers no health insurance, retirement, or paid leave. Sure it's $260 per day, but that is only for the school days that you work. Considering the number of days in the school year, and the reality that you won't be able to find a position every day? If you max it out and sub as much as you can, you're talking about $45k/year with zero benefits.

Not a bad gig if you're on your parent's or spouse's health insurance. But if you try and work that your whole career, you can forget about ever being a home owner or retiring. Starter homes here go for $400k.

Great option for those in transition. But there's a reason I call it decent, but hardly amazing.

[-] Starski@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Still not awful for my area, with a median income of 47k. But to be fair my area is poor as shit.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

And I imagine that subs in your area probably get paid proportionally less. Though maybe not.

[-] Starski@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Looking into it, substitute teachers in my area make from 40-50k on average, so really not far off. Considering many jobs in my area already don't provide health insurance, it's really not the worst option for people specifically in my area. I'm sure this is by far the exception of course, just thought it was interesting.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

Although TBF it probably isn't an every day kind of thing.

[-] clifmo@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

Welcome Anon!

Signed, A 2006 graduate

[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago
[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 hour ago

Why not?

Maybe don't specialize in internal combustion engines, but... EVs still need repairs even if their predicted lifespan is significantly shorter. Won't need head gasket replacements, but brakes are still brakes, struts are still struts. I suspect if you specialize in high voltage systems, you'll still have a good career ahead of you as a mechanic.

[-] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 26 points 6 hours ago

We have come to the point where me must accept that it is normal for people to spend their early 20s smoking weed and masturbating

[-] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 points 59 minutes ago

I only did 1 of those and managed to get a house by my late 20s a few years ago.

[-] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

was it ever not normal for people from middle class and upper middle class families to do that?

[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 23 points 6 hours ago

The social contract has been destroyed. Time to get the pitchforks!

[-] Moxie_empathizer@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

If mechanically inclined, consider FAA Airframe and Powerplant mechanic. You'll never want for work the wages are great and there's contracting opportunities all over the world. Really the worst best part is that the defense and "war" sector of aircraft work does pay the best.

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