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Phones/socials/LLMs/etc are like smoking cigs in the 70s.

Lots of people enjoy them socially, find casual use to be a fun thing. Or they just go along woth that everyone else wants to be agreeable. Some people get really hooked. They fill some of the same needs. Something to do when your bored lonely.

In both cases, a web has been spun around all of us where capitalists will benefit from continued integration into our lives. They use all their power to market to every vulnerability we might have.

People who caution are seen as nagging kill joys. Immediate problems are brushed off, long term is complex to demonstrate causality.

Of course in the belly of the beast, nobody has the wherewithal to implement the broad public health campaign like the one that worked against tobacco in the late 20th century. That was a big fight of course. A fight waged by dweeb scientists against powerful interests, but they had some institutional backing and stability which enabled it. Thats totally decimated now.

But now everyone knows you shouldn't smoke around kids or give them cigs. All kinds if social expectations were modified. Anybody else old enough to remember the various fancy or makeshift ashtrays everyone had in their living rooms?

I think this tech is more insidious because it is way versatile in its harms and charms. But probably cigs are something to look at as inspiration to get this under control. There are enough similarities.

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[-] tombruzzo@hexbear.net 10 points 12 hours ago

Black Mirror episode where you search for things by hitting the vape and it delivers the response straight to your brain

[-] d_cagno@hexbear.net 18 points 16 hours ago

Nah. Smoking looks cool, and no one ever looks cool on their phone

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 3 points 10 hours ago

What about a phone shaped cig? Checkmate atheist!

[-] none@hexbear.net 7 points 14 hours ago

They look cool in their phone.

[-] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 12 points 15 hours ago

Ban phoning indoors. This is a no phone zone

[-] none@hexbear.net 4 points 14 hours ago

Or outdoors. I'm not sure which would be better.

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 13 points 16 hours ago

yeah but no one was ever REQUIRED to smoke cigs for their job, unless you were a movie star or in advertising or something.

[-] none@hexbear.net 5 points 14 hours ago

Yes phones are a significant technological improvement over cigs.

Smoking helps in certain jobs, less so these days due to the successful anti tobacco campaigns. But cigs definitely can't run gps or push notifications.

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 11 points 17 hours ago

A lot of places now offer 2 15 minute "cell phone breaks" instead of smoke breaks.

[-] none@hexbear.net 7 points 14 hours ago

Nobody with a soul offers breaks in 15 min increments. Hate that shit.

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 4 points 13 hours ago

I convinced our boss to make the hour worth of breaks freeform. It took like 2 years of convincing and just doing it that way until he made it the official policy though.

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