Yes. Also, there is zero, ZERO path to anything better through the Republocan party.

There are plenty of ways to eventually get somewhere through the Dems. It may mean "suffing" alot of do nothing bull shit, but there are paths and ways.

Why do people keep purposely misrepresenting the criticism people had for Harris? Like, I know, it was hard at the time to listen to people warning about her potential to lose. But, we have the advantage of hindsight now. Do we have to pretend the main criticism of Harris was that Trump would be better? No one that wasn't a grifter was saying that.

The vast vast majority of people criticizing Harris were doing so because they correctly warned people that if she did not separate herself from Biden and run FOR something turnout would be low and she would lose.

• The people critizing her for trying to run "strong border" ads were correct.
• The people that criticized her for saying "nothing comes to mind" when asked if she would have done anything differently than Biden were correct.
• The people that criticized the campaign for stopping the very well received "weird" messaging Walz brought. They were correct. Walz brought momentum and they shut it up. It's like they were allergic to things that were working and getting people interested in her campaign.
• The people that critized her when she suddenly stopped talking about her ONE concrete policy idea on grocery store price controls. They were correct. She stopped talking about a vastly popular position because Trump called her "communist". And then they kept calling her a "communist" anyway.
• The people that criticized her for supporting Bidens Israel policy; THEY WERE CORRECT. We are living in a world were 75% of lifelong Democrats are against any support for Israel. This didn't happen overnight. This has been happening since Bidens genocide began. And her absolute failure to LEAD and understand were the country was heading was a complete failure. We told you in 2024. The country was begging for a real leader and this issue would shown that she had that ability to lead. That she could call a spade a spade and not be another bull shit politician afraid to upset AIPAC. She failed.

Do you know what a leader does? They LEAD and guide others in the correct direction. We are there NOW. The people that vote for the Democratic party are ALWAYS significantly ahead of there leaders on the actual issues. They were begging for a leader that would actually step forward and be unafraid and unapologetic in leading on issues and policy.

We don't have to wonder. We are literally seeing it growing RIGHT NOW. From Mamdani to Abdul (soon) we are seeing anti Israel and leftwing populism wipe the floor with Harris style Democrats.

A 15 term incumbent losing DEMOCRATIC primaries to a 29 year old that was saying "fuck Kamala Harris" for not taking a stand against Israel. The people you are crying about that "lost Kamala the election". They are the people literally going out and organizing right now because they are sick and tired of having to explain why the Democratic party keeps losing to Trump and being told "you're the reason Harris lost."

We're done with just explaining it. We're done being used as a scapegoat for the failures of the Democratic party when we offer constructive criticism. We're forcing these politicians out of office that refuse to actually lead.

I don't know a single person I organize with in DSA that didn't go vote for Harris. We aren't the ones that didn't show up. The ones that didn't show up were the people that didn't even know who the presidential candidates were a week before the election. And a lot of them didn't have reason enough to take off work, not be able to pick their kid up from daycare on time, or didn't want to get stuck in traffic, so they decided to not vote that day.

So, please, stop pretending the people actually organizing for good candidates like Mamdani were the people that didn't show up. And, please, come join us at DSA and help us elect people that actually have the motivation and knowledge to be leaders.

Edit: And for the love of God, please stop confusing the majority of the socialist movement with Anarkiddies and the socialist that like to LARP as Maoist third worldist online. We don't like them much either. They are kinda stinky and need to shower. But, they aren't worth even caring about. They don't have any negative effects outside your twitter feed.

They were bots. All of them. And the public is too dumb to tell.

It sounds like you supported Hillary and still don't understand why she lost, so you keep the same approach... In reality, tens of millions of voters actually care who the Dem candidate is. If you feed them a pro-corporate anti-worker center-right tool, they might stay home. That is reality, my friend. Blame them all you want. I would blame the DNC, but you do you.

In the Coke vs Pepsi system of the US, its hard to see how voting for one over the other would be any better. Sometimes 3rd and 4th parties actually have a little bit of power in Canada's Westminster system if there's a minority government. It just goes to hell when the Liberals stop pretending to not be conservatives.

Complaining is fine, butinaction or negative action, is not at all productive to fixing those complaints, ever. Life is very often about compromise.

And at the scales we are talking about, it barely qualifies as "the lesser of two evils," because one of the two meaningful choices is so much MORE evil it makes the other evil pretty much saintlike.

Almost, and intelligent leftists too. Complain all you want for now, until primaries are over. This is the best time to do so actually.

Once the primary results are in, then yes complaining needs to stop until after the midterms. After the midterm results are in, you can go back to complaining.

Pedro - Jill Stein
Tomato - Tomato

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