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I like having a backup heating/cooking source in case of power outage, still far too common for me here in Chicago with the above ground power lines. I have electric space heaters and then of course my gas furnace and fireplace.
Uh oh, the right-wingers are gonna lose their shit again.
I don't understand why gas stoves are still the default. When you step back and think about it its crazy that we still have an appliance which produces an open flame in our homes. Not to mention that it's one of the most used things in the house (probably).
Where in the world are they still the default?
Large cities, I know where I'm from is mostly gas and it's only 300,000, Google says that "Densely populated urban states like New York, New Jersey, Illinois (including Chicago), and California report that roughly 60% to 70% of households use gas for cooking, compared to a national average of about 38%"
Oh, the US
They're not really common in homes almost anywhere else in the world, tbf. I haven't seen one in europe in decades.
The US are major exporters of LNG. It is cheap and effective in the US. When Europe was importing the majority of its gas, it makes sense they'd transition away when there's other options available.
Everything is cost related. The cost of transitioning in the US doesn't make sense. I have gas appliances, and it'd be silly to transition to electric.
Once You get access to (pipes), it's commonly way cheaper. Extra cheaper if You have old house, made with old tech that would be extra expensive to turn into electric heating.
If You have fair income, ok, go full electric, but for many who lives from check to check in many areas, the gas do matter.
The difference may be quite big if You live in country without fairly cheap nuclear energy, unsure i'd call green energy extra cheap. Then often mining lobby may do harm even to gov, to keep unclean and expensive energy as main source of any electricity.
Also is gas so default? Afaik, if some gonna build whole building, within new tech, it is more common to go full electricity, without any gas connection - many decide to skip getting pipes (save lots once), even if that would mean paying slightly more (per year, long term, but who knows future prices, for how long calculations).
Gas companies push gas stoves and dryers because once you have those comparatively low usage devices they can sell you on gas water heaters and furnaces which are the real money makers for them.
Also, a lot of older homes don't have a high enough amperage on their electric service to power a bunch of 240V devices. But there's no excuse for new builds outside of the local grid not being able to handle it.
Even with cheap nuclear here. My old house's connection to the grid is inadequate for switching to full electric. Getting the power company to come and upgrade the connection is prohibited expensive even before replacing all my gas powered appliances.
But... it smells so good :(
The number of "adults" I have met who do not think they need to run the vent and/or open a window while burning gas in their homes is deeply troubling.
Routing our range hood to vent outside is the single best upgrade we've done to our house (but also the most annoying to DIY). I'd love to have induction but with gas the outside vented range makes the issue non existent.
Even with electric, range hoods should be required to vent outside always. I don't know why it's still legal to build homes that vent inside.
It isn't legal to build new homes that vent to the inside. In the US, there is no national build code, only states regulate code. But all states default to some minimum year of the ICC codes. At this point there are no remaining states where it is legal to have a new build vented inside.
This isn't to say though that some states were late to adopt a minimum year that finally included it and maybe your semi-new-ish house just barely fell under old regulations when it was built. That said, cities can also enforce a higher code if the building is being rented out and needs to have an occupancy license and may force an owner to do the upgrade before renting out.
You should open the window regardless of gas.
Cooking is not an environmentally friendly action lol, and it also releases plenty of bad shit for you to breathe.
Life isn't perfect guys, sorry bout it.
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"Big electric is trying to ban gas stoves again and cancel your god given right to buy indoor gas stoves that we assemble here in america with parts imported from china"
- this statement funded by the North American Natural Gas Cartel
"Big electric is trying to ban gas stoves again and cancel your god given right to buy indoor gas stoves!" Big gas -2020
"Big gas is trying to ban coal stoves again and cancel your god given right to buy indoor coal stoves!" Big coal -1920
"Big coal is trying to ban wood stoves again and cancel your god given right to buy indoor wood stoves!" Big wood -1820
...
"Big fire is trying to ban raw food again and cancel your god given right to tear raw flesh with your teeth!"
Cave man John -60,000 bc.
Yes but if you don't get diabetes, asthma and cancer the communists will win so shut up and cook your hamburger helper on a gas stove using PFAS-ladden pan like daddy Trump wants you to.
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And heat is hot. Who would have thought that having a gas canister in your home and having it burn natural gas INSIDE of your home could somehow worsen indoor air quality. Why don’t we just put our gas grill inside as well because clearly big electricity is just spreading fake news that gas is bad.
but there is NO SMOKE
Gas stoves are also linked to slightly higher cancer rates. But dammit, gas stoves rule. I spent so long cooking with nonstick pans on electric stoves. Now I've got cast iron on a gas range and everything is better and easier.
Electric stoves come in two forms though: ceramic, where you have an old-fashioned spiral which heats up the plate your pan sits on and plainly sucks imho. Or induction which heats your pan directly though an electromagnetic field. The latter is more efficient and modern cast iron pans work perfectly fine on them, no need for an enamel coating
Last few years I alternated between induction and gas due to moving around, induction is a clear winner for me.
You forgot IR, which was the 'cool' electric stoves during the 80s through late 00s when induction came about and took it's spot.
Edit: and also Coil stoves (which what I thought you meant with Ceramic, but that's the slightly more upmarket version) which are the absolute worst and the standard 'landlord special' in Australia.
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Uh most induction ones are also ceramic though, and not all old-fashioned ones are.
I think you mean resistive vs induction, not ceramic vs induction
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gas stoves rule
I used to say that also but dammit, induction stoves are even better. The clear winner is my pasta pot on the big burner boils water significantly faster than gas used to
Actually I’ve noticed fairly frequently that I no longer have time to prep while things are getting up to temp - I’ve had to change my habits to do essentially all prep ahead of time (ok the pasta water still takes a bit but instead of turning it on high before doing prep, I use medium high to give me more time)
Some people have problems with their cookware, but I was already using cast iron, which works beautifully, and multilayer stainless which works beautifully. I do keep a couple non-stick skillets for eggs, or visitors to use, and had to get special ones since most won’t work.
The only real problem with induction is it isn’t commonly available (in the US), and can be expensive. I paid way more than I wanted to, because induction and air fryer which I wanted, only came with “smart” and double oven which I didn’t want to pay for …… and I never did see a floor model so had to buy without actually seeing it
induction stoves are great if the pan fits the coil and has a perfectly flat bottom.
With oversized pan they get horrid hot spots, and for something like a Wok they just don't work.
They do work for wok, Technology Connections even made a video about it. It just needs to be a specific set designed for it (but really, the same goes for gas if you want a proper wok).
With a gas burner, you can just change out the grill on top to make it accommodate a wok pretty well. With an inductive stove, you can't. They make flat-bottom works for use on them, but they're useless.
The advantage and disadvantage of induction is that the cookware is the heating element. It makes them very efficient, but they are terrible at spreading heat. I love boiling water in mine because it's super fast and efficient. But I can only heat 1 pancake, steak, or tortilla at a time on them because if the food isn't centered over the coils it doesn't cook evenly at all.
Horrid may be the wrong word, but yes if you put a big pan on a small coil it will heat unevenly. It’s more noticeable in skillets where you’re trying to sear something.
Yes I’ve noticed that
- putting a 12” skillet on a coil sized for 10” does not cook well around the edges
- putting a 12” stock pot on a coil sized for 10” takes longer to boil.
You could just…. Not do that
I’m a convert. Induction is so much better. Heats cast iron like you wouldn’t believe.
Try induction. It's so much better than standard electric, and in my opinion, also better than gas.
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