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[-] lemmelemmy@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

lol who’s gonna seize it? Trump government? America is cooked. I’m starting to think America’s future is either going to be a very isolated authoritarian dystopia or state separation. No one likes each other and everyone argues over a the most simple things. Human rights, work rights doesn’t exist if you’re not filthy rich. Manipulation is so bad that if trump says the sky is green, tomorrow idiots are going to believe it’s actually green.

Idk man. I really wish they’d take billionaires monies and build houses hospitals but never going to happen.

[-] CaptainMan251@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

They seize our water and energy, so fuck em. They can explode for all I care, as can all the sell outs who work in them.

Also, please tell everyone you see that there is lots of copper in those data centers.

[-] Rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

I support seizing wealth from billionaires, period.

[-] SippyCup@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I support seizing the health from billionaires.

[-] osanna@lemmy.vg 4 points 2 days ago
[-] Naz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Green Mario?

[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago

They get tax write offs from the government, as well as cities and states PAYING THEM to expand their empire.

They're the biggest welfare queens.

[-] BillyGruff82@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

The wealthy will turn it into a bailout. The US government isn't gonna 'seize' anything. They'll "compromise" by buying the companies directly from the wealthy, and when it all comes crashing down the tax payers will be left holding the bag.

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 103 points 3 days ago

What "wealth"? They're all losing money.

[-] 20cello@lemmy.world 77 points 3 days ago

They're losing borrowed money

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

They borrowed our real money from banks without us having any say in it, based on imaginary valuations of what someone would hypothetically spend for their mountain of shares based on the price the tiny slice for sale is worth...

A complete and utter disregard for supply side economics.

If any of them actually have to sell to pay back the loan, they go bankrupt and the bank can't collect.

That makes every other bank individually panic and call all their loans in to try and get what they can.

Banks doing a run on banks. Then everyone's going to try and pull their money out when banks starting going bust.

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[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 3 days ago

I don't think there is any wealth there, just undeserved trust that allows them to raise money through debt.

If you seize that, then the debtors will come calling for higher risk premium and the venture implodes - sooner than they otherwise would.

So maybe it is a good idea anyway.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

"5 more years, bro. I know I know, just 5 MORE years bro and we'll have AGI on the moon bro, no idea how to monetize it but just 5 additional years bro!"

How the heck does this keep generating cash flow? Are investors really this stupid?

[-] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 65 points 3 days ago

Why stop at the AI industry?

[-] nullspace@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

I was just thinking the same. Most of what's bad about AI just leads back to the wealthy elite being greedy hoarders.

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[-] Grumpus_Maximus 17 points 3 days ago

The problem is they over borrowed and dont make any money.

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 days ago

they have a bunch of assets. Doesn't need to be cash

[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

What wealth?

https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-openai-bubble/

They can't do anything if they aren't spending VC money. LLMs are the most money burning corporate misadventure of all time.

[-] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

It's a trap. Open source / weight models will become mandated to pay for use locally. So we won't be able to use local models for our own purposes and gain, while the big corporations simply pay a small percentage.

Hardware and software breakthroughs will make it possible to run LLM models and advanced AI on local, solar powered hardware. For example you can pack a ternary 27b model on a smartphone now.

In the best case, 50% will belong to the US empire. Which is controlled by the worst of the worst people on earth.

[-] Sheppa@aussie.zone 15 points 3 days ago
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[-] vane@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Isn't US AI already funded by tax deduct ?

[-] Abyssian@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I support seizing the wealth of all the wealthy.

[-] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What wealth? The AI industry is probably the most debt-laden venture in the entire history of currency, and has failed spectacularly and repeatedly to demonstrate any viable path to profitability. There's no wealth to take, and there never will be.

[-] 7101334@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Scrap the shit for parts or raw materials then. I'll take $5 and the death of AI data centers any day.

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[-] snooggums@piefed.world 39 points 3 days ago

A majority of Americans discover the concept of taxation.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 days ago

I support seizing the wealth from more industries than just AI

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[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

"Seizing" just means "not giving copius amounts of tax cuts" nowadays.

[-] BillyGruff82@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Nah, they need bag-holders too.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 3 days ago
[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Oh that's actually REALLY cool news.

[-] msage@programming.dev 8 points 3 days ago

No it's not.

Public will be left holding the bag.

Those companies are bleeding money everywhere, as soon as it hits open market they will crash and burn.

Let the rich keep those ''''assets''''. It's all stolen anyway.

[-] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 5 points 2 days ago

The text doesn't read buy, it reads transfer. Basically force all AI companies to issue one extra share per share currently held and handed over to the fund.

Assume they could be non voting shares, but have them be paid the same dividends as other shareholders

But I don't get why this would be preferred to increasing capital tax or company taxes

[-] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago

They seize wealth from us

Trump accounts are now mandatory for all children born after 1/1/25. They were briefly optional and you chose if you wanted them while filing taxes

Trump accounts give the kid $1000 no strings attached and it’s loaded into an index (SPYM) made up of nvidia, apple, amazon, Microsoft, meta, tesla, micron, and alphabet class a (google).

On a surface read this is great, trump is giving free money to children for education planning.

But realistically it’s money laundering to fund their pump and dump. About 3.6-3.7 million children are born in the USA each year over the past few years (declining from a 2007 peak of 4.1). About 9% of those are undocumented, leaving about 3.25-3.3 million. This money isn’t free and doesn’t come from nowhere, it’s about 3.3 billion dollars of taxpayer money (yearly) to pump directly into AI companies and other grossly overvalued tech that’s propped up by making the overwhelming majority of retirement accounts contingent on its value (eg tesla)

In a typical 529 you have much more say in how investments are spread (with notable limitations) but the trump account is spym only.

Further, while 3.3 billion is barely anything in the scheme of the economy or even openais apparent (bloated) value, it’s to prime the pump to get more working class dollars in these companies. The 529 your child is given is essentially worthless if you make no contributions (at least in the context of education). Even maxing yearly contributions (5k/yr) from 0-18 with a prediction based on somewhat idealized returns would make the account worth ~$170,000 at 18, which is often not nearly enough to pay for college now, let alone in almost 2 decades. But it means a decent portion of Americans with children are pumping more of their cash into this bubble for their children’s education.

This is not even touching on the other gross things, like robinhood being the default and only servicer of these plans, which almost certainly is because of a fat bribe as they are the scummiest brokerage that preys on wallstreetbets gambler type retail investors.

Despite this it’s better than sending another 3 billion dollars of bombs for Israel to do genocide with, I guess

[-] FryHyde@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago

Where are you getting the information that they're mandatory? Everything I can find shows them to be voluntary.

[-] GalacticRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

No way would someone just make things up on the internet would they?

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[-] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago

Doesn't this just ensure they're all "too big to fail" and we use tax dollars to jeep them afloat forever?

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