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[–] 244 points 3 months ago (13 children)

tl;dr, they waited for the opposition to go on holiday and then pushed through a special resolution that required them to vote no in order to not pass. It's shady as fuck.

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  • [–] 78 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

    It's almost like our institutions and political class across the developed world are acting on behalf of capital and not in the peoples best interests...

    Maybe that's why they all collude with surveillance capitalism to violate our civil rights wholesale, and expand the surveillance state...

    These are not the actions of a government "for the people". These are the actions of criminally corrupt tyrants and traitors who should spend the rest of their lives in prison. The fact that they won't should tell you everything you need to know about our "democracies".

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  • [–] 33 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Huh, that sounds like there's some next system level evaluation that can repel it then

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    [–] 122 points 3 months ago* (23 children)

    „The Council then sent the file back to Parliament at the beginning of the vacation season, where it was difficult to secure the necessary majority to dismiss it again“

    What are we paying these people for? It should be obvious that it is Part of your duties being a member of parliament to monitor and act on stuff while being on vacation.

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  • [–] 62 points 3 months ago (20 children)

    When I have vacation, I don’t want to be bothered with work related stuff either. I understand their want for a vacation, and they should not be blamed. The system that allows this chicanery is at fault here.

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  • [–] 52 points 3 months ago* (7 children)

    I don't want to be bothered while on vacation either, but if something happens at work that needs my specific attention someone will find me.

    For fuck's sakes we can't be taking server rooms more seriously than democracy.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    I’m sorry but you’re enabling this behavior. When I take an official holiday, I’m unavailable for work, simple as that. Work is a part of my life, not the definition of my life.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    As per Wikipedia on the topic.

    As of July 1, 2019, the monthly salary is of €8,932.86, or just over €107,000 per year.[15] MEPs also receive a general expenditure allowance of €4,563 per month.[15]

    If I can be called in from vacation for €43k a year, these cunts can come in to vote for the fucking future of democracy for €107k.

    Is it right to interrupt vacations? No. Does it matter in this case? Also the fuck no. The thing happened! They weren't there! If they want better rights or whatever I guess they should fucking unionise or whatever. Sitting out on a vote of this magnitude is beyond reprehensible.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I agree. I guess what I didn't say is that I do a bunch of work on the clock in order to ensure 99% of my responsibilities are covered. And then even the other 0.9% my coworkers can just deflect or work around.

    But if a situation arises that actually hurts people imo that is no longer a work issue but a humanity issue, and if my fellows can't handle it then I do want to be made aware.

    If this a regular occurrence then there needs to be some way to block or mitigate the damage, so that people can go on vacation and not worry they're coming back to a mess.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    I don’t want to be bothered with work related stuff either. I understand their want for a vacation, and they should not be blamed

    Have you ever heard the phrase, "With great power comes great responsibility"? Yes, it's from some dumb capeshit, but it's true. If you want to be elected into a position of such power, then you're voluntarily signing up for the responsibility, including the responsibility to keep shit like this from happening when you go on vacation.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Vacation is vacation. They have a right to a vacation just like I do. The system should have safeguards in place. I don’t want the elected to have a burnout, just in the same way that I don’t want to have a burnout.

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  • [–] 47 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Worst part is - this is the fuel for anti-EU crowd.

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    [–] 45 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    The amended EP position adopts a positive, yet rather cosmetic amendment proposed by the liberal RENEW group that would “exclude communications to which end-to-end encryption is, has been, or will be applied” from the scope of the law.

    This isnt cosmetic, this is genius! It satisfies lawmakers who want to make this pass to "save the children" and have no idea of the consequences, and it satisfies the lawmakers with braincells since makes the law inapplicable to secure communications.

    I hope this does pass so they finally stop trying to push it through. But since they did pass the voluntary one but are still trying to pass the non-voluntary one, I think they will just try to spam chat control laws until their dystopic aim is achieved.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    They still get to eavesdrop on your e-mails.

    You know, the digital version of mail.

    Guess who used to open and read people's mail ... oh, yeah, the political police of every fucking dictatorship in Europe (both Fascist and Communist) during the XX century.

    This is the shit these people in supposedly Democratic nations have enacted.

    If you're a citizen in an EU member state, I suggest you have a look at who are the MEPs in you country who voted for this shit. In mine - Portugal - which had a Fascist dictatorship complete with mail opening secret police, this was passed entirely with the votes of the mainstream parties and even the far-right voted against it.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah. It might be preferable to draw a line between social media and chat applications.

    That way the people who are scared can teach their children to talk on services that are scanned, while people that care for their privacy can opt for private communication.

    If it's about pedophiles sharing stuff with each other, they'll never be able to stop that.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    So the EU made everyone put endless cookie acceptance popups up in the name of "privacy" then turns around and flagrantly violates it in the name of "protecting children". In the US the only thing that isn't done in the name of "protecting children" is gun regulation.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    The EU didn't make anyone do that, site that have no business recoding the information put those up as a dark pattern to try and force people into accepting the terms so they can claim informed consent to the tracking. It's malicious compliance, they could just not collect that tracking data that isn't required to provide the service.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    How long until they say "people are using E2E to get around this. We need to ban/include E2E now"?

    "E2E is just for pedos" incoming.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago

    Wow the EU pulls ahead of the US in the competition to become the most comprehensive surveillance state

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago

    The more I hear about The Pirate Party the more I like them.

    Are there any Pirate Party representatives in Denmark?

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago

    Manfred Weber of the CSU (EVP chairman) introduced this personally. Roberta Metsola helped him through the procedure.

    Remember these names, make sure they lose their jobs.

    https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/07/07/eu-to-extend-temporary-message-scanning-regime-to-detect-child-sexual-abuse-online

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I checked the danish votes here and it seems like only social demokratiet (social democrats) voted against this bill. All other stronger left leaning parties voted for it as well as all the centrist and right leaning parties. Truly disappointing.

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    [–] 12 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    So what does this mean? Do we have to use China-based chat apps to avoid domestic spying? I assume US companies (including Whatsapp) will bend to the ruling

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