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submitted 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) by kiri@ani.social to c/linux@programming.dev

(No provocation)

I see these reasons:

  • newbie
  • lazy (don't wanna edit config files etc.)
  • unique features (like assistant/toolbox, some optimizations like in cachyos)
  • wanna check how different systems are set up (that's rather distrohopping)

Personally, I used manjaro i3 when I was beigginer and wanted to see how tiling WM should be configured (check out ranger config, for example). But after some time, I don't see reasons why not to just customize pure arch (same with debian and debian-based distros).

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[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 hour ago

Using Garuda Linux.

I'm a lazy newb who enjoys QOL features and Gardua has a bunch of those. For instance - suggests which gaming apps to install during the initial set up, and comes with a "Garuda Toolbox" which helps take care of OS maintenance.

[-] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 1 points 50 minutes ago

Same. Garuda has by far been the most "it just works" OS i've used.

[-] Superorbit@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

I am indeed lazy lol

[-] tux0r@snac.rosaelefanten.org 0 points 2 hours ago

Arch. When you can't Gentoo, but are too proud to tell everyone directly.

[-] tux0r@snac.rosaelefanten.org -1 points 2 hours ago

Arch. When you can't Gentoo, but are too proud to tell everyone directly.

[-] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I used to use Arch, but I dropped it for CachyOS sometime last year. Cachy is just slightly faster for gaming for me, and since that's my biggest use, there was no really compelling reason why I shouldn't use it instead of Arch. Same experience, slightly better performance while gaming, and no additional work to set up. It's just win after win.

[-] tux0r@snac.rosaelefanten.org -1 points 2 hours ago

FWIW, you could install CachyOS's kernel on Gentoo. It exists as a package.

[-] GottaHaveFaith@fedia.io 2 points 5 hours ago

I didn't have time to set up arch manually as I wanted, after two/three hours I still didn't have a desktop environment and needed a working PC in the afternoon. I tried both cachyos and endeavouros, they're both good and they just work (TM). If I were to format the PC another time I guess I could try again with arch Linux, always happy to learn new stuff.

[-] SinTan1729@programming.dev 7 points 8 hours ago

I love the rolling release model, and the AUR. (I even maintain some applications ok AUR.) I have installer and used pure Arch in the past, if only for the rite of passage.

But nowadays I mostly use EndeavourOS. It's basically Arch once it's installed, but has a nice and fast installer, with great defaults. Also, the community is awesome. I rarely need any help anymore, but I still like hanging out in their forums helping others, and generally chatting about non-Linux stuff.

[-] EuroNutellaMan@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Definitely not a good time to love the AUR rn tho

[-] SinTan1729@programming.dev 3 points 50 minutes ago

Idk, I feel like it's blown out of proportions a bit. It's always supposed to be unsupported, and users are supposed to look at the PKGBUILD files. I know most people don't, but I don't think that's AUR's fault.

[-] hoohoohoot@fedinsfw.app 2 points 8 hours ago

SO I CAN FEEL SUPREME!!!

And so I can configure EVERYTHING

But I dont use Arch right now.

Fedora has a nice "ecosystem" or more like unixsystem", too and its ready out of the box and has copr similar to aur which is integrated in the official dnf package manager and super-frequent updates including kernel ones AND last 1-2 kernels for backup..... it seems much better than Arch, right off the bat thought.

Gentoo, on the other hand... yes okay maybe a decent PC required... but.. it feels good

[-] nek0d3r@midwest.social 3 points 9 hours ago

I guess, same reason why we use Debian or Arch and not just LFS

[-] Neuromancer49@midwest.social 4 points 10 hours ago

I chose EndeavourOS initially because I was relatively new to Linux (I tinkered with Ubuntu in grade school) and wanted out of Microsoft's environment. The support community is amazing and newbie-friendly. They've helped me through a few bricked systems.

Now I'm at a crux because I own a 1080 and am tired of mistakenly breaking my installation because NVIDIA stopped supporting open source drivers for old cards. I felt uncomfortable building my own driver packages and was relying on AUR, but the recent security breach has me skittish.

Rather than switch to another distro (Mint being the top contender), I decided to replace my graphics card and stay with Endeavour because it seems the Arch distros are the only ones staunchly against age verification laws. I'm fortunate enough to be in a position to update and stick with Endeavour. Maybe when I actually get good at Linux I'll switch to pure Arch.

[-] Bimfred@lemmy.world 47 points 17 hours ago

Because the PC enables me do do my hobbies (gaming, 3d modelling and printing), the PC itself isn't my hobby. If I spend more time tinkering with the OS than having the OS run the things I actually want to do, I'll go do something else.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 18 points 17 hours ago

I think this is a common misconception about Arch, that it requires continuous tinkering. I see that word used so much, too, "tinkering".

What I've been doing for the past decade is just install Arch, set things up the way I like, and then just keep everything up-to-date as I go. Of course, I install and uninstall things as I try new software, but the OS itself? Zero tinkering. I just use it.

Especially if you only game on it and stuff like that, then simple plain Arch is great. Lean system that just works. Install the things you want and enjoy.

I got two kids and way too many hobbies so I can relate to not wanting to fiddle with the OS. I run Arch on my two home desktop PCs, and my two work laptops. 🤷‍♂️ Zero maintenance.

Enjoy!

[-] Bimfred@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago

I see what you mean. But in order to reach the point where Arch is configured and my machine Just Works, I would have to learn how to install Arch, what packages I need, what are the ups and downs of the various packages for handling the same things, resolve any conflicts I accidentally created, and then I can get to installing the things I actually want. It's a lot of work and time that isn't going into something I consider fun.

Arch is great for people who want to build their OS to be precisely what they want it to be. I happen to not be one of those people.

[-] EuroNutellaMan@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Arch elitists don't want you to know this but you can just type archinstall and a text installer guide thingy will install the system for you based on what you tell it.

That said, you're spot on on the last part. I love arch exactly because it is the easiest one to customize the way I want to but it's not for everyone and not everyone should use it

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I would have to learn how to install Arch

I didn't know how until I did it. There's a very comprehensive guide that you follow. If you can follow the recipe for cookie batter and manage to make the cookies, you'll be able to install Arch. 🤟

what packages I need, what are the ups and downs of the various packages for handling the same things, resolve any conflicts I accidentally created, and then I can get to installing the things I actually want.

To be fair that's something you'd have to do regardless of distro, even on Windows. Learning which tools you like takes like half a career worth of time.

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[-] rozodru@piefed.world 6 points 12 hours ago

I don't use Arch anymore but I can imagine that the install process turned a lot of people off it or pivoted them to stuff like Manjaro, CachyOS, Endeavour etc. It isn't until recently that ArchInstall has become VERY good and simple.

Primary factor even with Archinstall is if you're trying to install Arch via Wifi. you have to do iwd and all that and for someone who isn't quite as comfortable on the command line yet that can be daunting. Even now for myself if I were installing Arch I still have to pull up the Arch Wiki during install cause I can never remember the iwd commands for wifi. I've also borked the install a couple times because I either forgot to include the networkmanager or selected the wrong video drivers.

[-] hellmo_luciferrari@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

I use both CachyOS (on my steam deck) and pure Arch on my Desktop, and Laptop.

I like both. But I just don't feel like reinstalling my OS, though I was investigating using the CachyOS kernel and Repos within my current Arch install; and ultimately decided I would go CachyOS if I really wanted those optimizations. Not sure what performance gain from that switch I would realistically see.

I am not opposed to either route. Whatever tool fits the job. CachyOS on my Steam Deck because I didn't want an atomic distro, even if I do see the benfits. I have had good experience with CachyOS on my Steam Deck.

Your reasons and mileage may vary.

[-] CoryCoolguy@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 10 hours ago

Because pure Arch does not give me a choice of init system (Artix)

[-] lime@feddit.nu 14 points 15 hours ago

i've been customizing linux for 15 years. it's nice to just sit down with something that works.

[-] dewritoninja@pawb.social 4 points 12 hours ago

I like endeavour cause of the pretty wallpapers

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 8 hours ago

I did a pure Arch setup in a VM before I made the ultimate switch to CachyOS. I did not use the installer script but followed the guide on the wiki to get the basics running, and then I customized from there.

And while I'm glad I got that experience, because it taught me how much is really going on under the hood, I discovered that I simply don't enjoy that level of tinkering. It's not laziness, it's a lack of enjoyment towards the process.

[-] heliotrope@retrofed.com 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I haven't run Arch in a few months, but I used to use CachyOS and Artix.

In the case of CachyOS, the repos have a few packages from the AUR pre-compiled, and linux-cachyos-hardened is a fantastic kernel flavour.

Artix, meanwhile, lets me use runit instead of systemd.

I also like the idea of Linux-libre, for which I would probably use Hyperbola (if not Guix). However, the only machine I own with a compatible WiFi chipset is a 32-bit MacBook from the 2000s, which I haven't seen since 2024.

The preconfigured desktop and software is irrelevant to me. I have my own DE recipes and workflows that I can replicate across most Linux distros and BSDs.

[-] bier@feddit.nl 1 points 9 hours ago

I needed a fresh install and didn't want a lot of downtime. Cachyos basically worked without much effort so I didn't have a reason to change it.

[-] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.today 3 points 11 hours ago

I use the Calam Arch Installer ISO to install Arch. It's the same GUI installer that most downstream Arch derivatives use, but configured to install base Arch. No dealing with messy terminal install process and you end up with pure Arch install at the end. If all the downstream distros give you is an easy installer, this exists for base Arch as well even if it is a third party thing.

[-] excel@lemming.megumin.org 2 points 10 hours ago

I have no reason to use a raw distro that requires customization when there’s a better version that already comes preconfigured.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 16 points 17 hours ago

I’ve spent far too much of my life configuring computers. I want to do as little configuring as possible. Also, I’d heard that Cachy had custom kernel changes that made pretty much any game run better.

Games run phenomenally, not sure why I’d go try anything else. (Bazzite, mint, zorin did not work with my setup)

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[-] squirrel@cake.kobel.fyi 17 points 17 hours ago

I tried pure Arch. Installed it and then realized I have to set up everything myself and lost all motivation. Didn't know about archinstall at that time. Found CachyOS and stuck with it. It runs perfectly and I see no reason to switch.

[-] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 13 hours ago

I googled 'gaming Linux distribution' and it basically gave me popos and cachy. Didn't like popos

[-] LostWanderer@fedia.io 2 points 6 hours ago

LOL COSMIC is so not ready for a 1.0, honestly it is cursed ATM. System76 needed to leave that cake in the oven and let it bake longer! However, I do appreciate the direction that COSMIC is going, it just needs more time.

[-] Jo4ted@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago

I use CachyOS because I don't feel like going through the hassle of installing drivers for my 1070ti. The kernel optimizations are nice, tho.

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