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[-] [email protected] 93 points 2 years ago

I really don't like how "consumer-friendly" means "GUI that resembles Windows" in the minds of so many people.

[-] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago

Gotta meet the customer where they are, not where you would like them to be. Most people don't want to learn a new thing.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

You gotta meet the customer halfway until you get enough of them hooked, then slowly start introducing new ideas into their mental ecosystems that align with your vision.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Well, it definitely works when shifting people politically.

Coming soon: Mockrosoft Overton Windows™

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Then add adverts into that ecosystem and center their program menu. Ooh! Then change their right menus! They'd love that! Or, maybe they won't, but whatever.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

Windows wasn't first, Xerox was

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Xerox did so much for modern computing. If only people knew.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

The company was run by morons so "Xerox" deserves being synonymous with "company run by morons". But the actual Xerox employees who invented the basic GUI deserve credit for being the great inventors they were. Unfortunately I have no fucking idea who those actual people were.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Take a look at this post. It covers some names and stories about contributions that make modern interfaces what they are today.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

But no person on the planet, except the nerdiest of pedants, are thinking of Xerox when they see Windows interface. They think of Windows, even if it's KDE

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I like the terminal but don't remember all the arguments. I find that clunky. That's my main issue with it. (I'm open to suggestions if anyone has any)

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I was just forced to Switch to Mac and let me tell you that I'm actually enjoying it.

Things I like so far:

  • An actual modern email client that isn't web based. Web mail clients feel so cumbersome.

  • Same thing for a calendar application.

  • Nice reminders app out of the box. Can schedule alarms on reminders and categorize them.

  • Nice notes app that I don't need to constantly save. It never closes, which feels great compared to Gedit.

  • Security. Apps notify me when they want to access system resources and I have to authorize them.

  • Unix. Unix matters a lot.

  • Homebrew has incredible support. I can install almost anything with it.

  • Iterm2 feels almost like Terminator.

Things I hate:

  • The fact that they have another keyboard layout. Although, after 3 days I'm getting used.

  • Updates take forever, it's insane.

  • Can't easily switch back and forth (not cycle) between windows of same apps. Haven't figured this one out.

  • Docker runs in a VM, it sucks.

  • Can't get used to multiple desktops. I hate them.

Honestly, it isn't as bad as Windows. As long as I have a terminal and a nice shell, I'm good.

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[-] [email protected] 76 points 2 years ago

The only GUI library you need is ncurses.

There’s no escape from ANSII escape characters!

[-] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago

The purpose of Unix was to be user friendly. And it is. You haven't seen what it replaced.

Also friendliness doesn't require a Fisher Price interface.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago

Let me say that I really like "Fisher Price interface"

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

I don't even see the symbols anymore

[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago

That's defintiely the wrong title.

No, it's not the user catching Linux in trying to pretend user friendliness witht the terminal.

It's Linux catching the user in still hating it when he gets the wanted user friendliness, for the sole reason of being conditioned to hate the terminal.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

If you are able to use those buttons in the terminal, it wouldn't be a terminal.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

How do people use Windows without CLI?

It’s way harder to GUI-only than Linux

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

btop be like

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

You have no idea how many scripts I'm going to build with that...

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[-] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago

Ranger is also incidentally the name of my dog.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

A pupper so swell they named an OS after him!

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Tell Ranger I said hi, and that he needs a treat.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There's TUIFI Manager

twin, directfb2, and gum, pytermgui too.

edit: huh, gum and bubbles are from the same guy. But bubbles is for Go, gum for shell.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Midnight Commander has been around for ages. It's a straight ripoff/homage to the original Norton Commander, a full-fledged file manager and a godsend on week-kneed machines (like old netbooks).

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Yes. k9s comes to my mind.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I find ASCII incredibly readable honestly. I use pixel fonts too, but I love the sharp blocky characters it's so much easier on the eyes than whatever windows or iOS has going on by default

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

mh mh, but I'm afraid ASCII isn't what you suppose it is

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

bb showed us what the terminal can really do

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Speaking of a terminal displaying symbols, I still really miss slrn. I'd love a Lemmy client with that interface.

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago

Man I'm just poor

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

I run 128gb on my laptop lol

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Wait, how? I have zero games installed on my 1TB laptop and still only have like 300GB free.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago

Not everyone has a 500 GB yiff collection. Some people keep their yiff in the cloud.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago

Did you try removing the French language pack?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I want to get 2-4 TB because of torrents

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

@olafurp @AlecSadler What kind of data hoader are you?!
I mean, if you can afford that sure, but I find it unnecesary.
Also, how do you plan to backup that much storage? just curious about the last one, I always find it hard to backup more than 100 GB of media

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

what's wrong with a terminal displaying symbols?

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