It's a good start but they have 2,000 years of bigotry to make up for and the vast majority of christians refuse to even acknowledge that needs to be done
2s is how long it took me to find “ Faith Leaders” refusing to accept trans & enby siblings.
I’m perfectly aware how duplicitous digressive victim religions are. So don't pull bull if you won't save 10 trans people from harms.
I hate when people read a headline and argue against that instead of the actual article. OP has even included a summary for lazy people that you didn't read. Literally the first paragraph of the article is
Far-right leaders in the United States are fighting tooth and nail to eliminate rights for transgender people.
And then it goes on to clarify that it indeed talks about religious leaders
Case in point: Conservative Christian organizations like the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC) and the Liberty Council are pushing the Supreme Court to allow states to ban transgender athletes from women’s sports.
So why do you pretend that you “finding” that same fact somehow goes against the article?
Because appropriate headlines matter. This opinion should be titled:
For faith leaders only: As we are all children of god, trans people and enbies should be cherished instead of persecuted. Jesus already paid the ultimate sacrifice.
Sure, criticize the headline, but don't pretend the article said something other than what it did.
I said something stronger: digressive victim cults need to push further against bigotry, esp. against churches enforcing bigotry. It's their solemn duty to do so, instead of letting the bigotry reoccur. They need to riot and ransack bigotted churches like Jesus did in the temple. Until bigotry dies, their missions in this earth is not over.
I don't follow regarding “victim cults”. That could mean one of multiple things. Otherwise agreed, evangelicals need to be taught that they aren't living anything close to what their supposedly holy book says.
I knowa few Quakers who are great people. I'm sure not everyone calling themselves a quaker is, but according to them, they aren't exceptional Quakers.
Richard Nixon was a Quaker.
Great example of an exception. He behaves nothing like a usual Quaker.
Are you not aware of this predatory act? Cults like Judeo+Islam prey on acting vulnerable and being victims while doing the sin themselves. Their deity forgives them off their transgressions, so they are free to be duplicitous to everyone else.
This is particularly why I am being harder on these cults. Because they know they are predatory.
Quakers are not exempt from being duplicitous. If anything, they need to bury more evangelical bigots next door to them. I am extremely familiar their geographical locations, and how they’ve allowed the evangelical next doors to operate.
Sure I'm aware, I just haven't heard the specific terminology that this one paper chose.
Quakers are not exempt from being duplicitous
That's what I said. Individuals and groups can always diverge from the mainline. I'm saying that e.g. Quakers are among the groups that are the biggest thorns in the flesh of manipulating megachurch evangelicals, as the average Quaker actually gives a fuck about the teachings all Christians claim to follow.
And nothing is more dangerous for a corrupt leader than their flock noticing that there are people actually playing it straight.
Wow, suggesting Christians need to defile temples of injustice and fight authority? Even protest the financial system? Are you the fucking pope now? Who are you to tell these vicious bigouts what to believe, how to act?
So you did came to this 🧵 to troll. It is both in their code, and morality that they should hold their siblings accountable, for their kingdom is not on earth, but the heavens.
So go, and hold your Christians accountable. I don't need your blasphemy.
Pointing out that the majority of Christians do not believe this, and are in fact insane vicious monsters who want to murder all trans people is extrely rude.
Do you not understand that pride month starts tomorrow? How are trans people supposed to feel like they're resting on a pile of cocaine with assholes like you pointing out reality? How are allies supposed to feel good without any obligation or cognitive dissonance when junk like this is going around?
This is all suspicious. What search engine even loads in two seconds anymore?
Are you talking about yourself here, or ∗looks at your 2 week comment history∗ are you here to troll?
It's high time the church condemned all this hate and the co-opting of what was, at some point, theoretically, a religion built on a message of peace and love for all creation, not having 100 children and hoarding wealth.
There is no "the church" and several churches came out in support of transgender people a while ago.
How the fuck do you expect one church to be able to silence another? Do you think they engage in mortal combat in a gladiatorial area?
The original bible was transphobic though. Since transphobia is bad, we should also agree the Bible is bad, rather than all this whitewashing to try and make god mutable and change to whatever the current morality is.
I'm an ex-evanglical turned athiest who was practically antitheist for many years, but... The older I get the more I realize how unimportant judging others beliefs is. I love and appreciate a group of folks who believe in God and the Bible but are also kind to trans people and defends their right to exist against the real religious bigots.
The problem with transgender acceptance by deists is that the very existence of trans people implies that their god could make a mistake. So if you believe that the soul is this whole separate thing, then the "problem" with trans people — and I want those quotes to be read as very big air quotes — is that their soul does not match their body. That they were given the wrong body. There are also cisgendered people who are born infertile, and there are intersex people, and there are people with both sets of genitalia, and all of these imply the same thing: their god makes mistakes. But their religion needs their god to be infallible. So it just makes the religion fall apart, and the religious people, historically, have tried to stop these "anomalies" from existing. Only problem is, cisgendered and heterosexual people won't stop making gay babies (and all the other "anomalies").
But you don't need the LGBTQ+ community to undo the concept of divine infallibility. Say you're walking down a dark alley for some reason, and you see a man SA'ing a young girl. What are you going to do? Mind your business and keep it moving? Hell no, you're going to do something. And that's a big hole in the reasoning of most deist religions. They say their god is omnipresent (everywhere), and omniscient (sees everything), and omnipotent (limitless power), so, why doesn't he/it stop the SA from taking place? Why is it even an option for an adult to do that to a child? It just makes no sense. We're not omnipotent but we're gonna do something. Now, the deist can say, "God did something — he sent you." Okay, fine, but what about the kids who don't get helped? What did they do wrong? And it gets worse — a lot worse. Say the guy gets caught and goes to prison. Meanwhile the girl doesn't get the help she needs, because half the men think she asked for it, and the others don't know what to do or say. They treat her like damaged goods. So she cuts herself, one day she cuts too deep and dies. Well, Christianity says suicide is an unforgivable sin. So now she's going to Hell. Meanwhile, her attacker finds Jesus in prison (mostly because the Christians have access to meth and other drugs), so when he dies in a fight or drug overdose or whatever, he's accepted Christ, and per John 3:16 he's got an express pass through the Pearly Gates. So when her family members die, they just, what, accept that they're never going to see her again, because she's burning in Hell, and this guy who did it to her gets into Heaven, and what, they just forgive him? Yeah, that's a whole lotta nope. And I got off the "fuck no" train a long time ago — when this hypothetical all-powerful god turned his back on a child. I've held a small child who had been abused, who is stopping me from fighting for them because they believe I can protect them, so they pull my arm across them like a seatbelt and squeeze for dear life. And I'd take a bullet for this child, but I'd rather just get up and knock their stepdad TF out, but this child is shaking like they're about to have a heart attack and I can't leave them. I can't do it. So I can't follow most religions. I don't wanna dis religious people because I feel like they're just trying to do their best, but religion in general? It's not for me. Maybe some kind of Buddhism or other spiritual thing, maybe I could do one of those, but our modern religions? Christianity, Judaism, Islam? Not for me.
The problem with transgender acceptance by deists is that the very existence of trans people implies that their god could make a mistake.
Says who? Sure some religious people but also many religious leaders specifically say the opposite.
Transgender people have always been part of the human experience and if you take even a tiny peak at how diverse gender, sexuality and everything involved gets in the natural world you can clearly see that if God exists they are probably a fan of creativity and diversity when it comes to these things...
So no, you cannot assert that deists necessarily see trans people as indicator that god made a mistake.
They do. And I disagree with them. Those points are clear. Theirs and mine. I'm not exactly sure what yours is, though. Going off your second paragraph, I'm guessing you agree with me, but you also want to please the deists... maybe? Eh, either way, I'm not willing to budge on my position. This isn't a ChangeMyMind comm.
No, they say that while mainstream US Christianity lost the plot, there are denominations and steams of that religion that still love their neighbors unconditionally.
I'm an atheist and want religion abolished, but I don't lack reading comprehension.
But you lack empathy. Which is worse? What you have demonstrated to be true, or what you assume about others, framed within that lack of empathy?
Why the fuck would you make that up about me?
Nice whitewashing with elusive and overly good faith interpretations from a modern POV
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