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[-] ataraxya@lemmy.ml 193 points 1 week ago

if only there was a good, actively developed and highly regarded free and open source alternative whose name would be something like "LibreOffice"...

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 202 points 1 week ago

I like and use Libreoffice, but its a local application. This makes it fine for working by yourself and on your own hardware. Google Docs (Gstuite) is an online application with the best collaboration integration I've seen and works on nearly any device you can open a modern browser on. Yes, both products have a word processor and a spreadsheet, but they don't serve all the same use cases.

If this new Euro-office can replicate the Gsuite offerings (that Libreoffice lacks), then Euro-office could be a great addition to the open source community.

[-] ataraxya@lemmy.ml 67 points 1 week ago

right, thank you for pointing it out.

[-] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago

Nah this new Euro-Office is literally a OnlyOffice fork according to their GitHub. It's much closer in comparison to LibreOffice than Google docs.

They have worked with NextCloud to make Euro-Office an app/add-on (I forget what NextCloud calls them specifically) from this release (v1.0), so that they can integrate with a platform that already.. Has this feature (with Collabora office), but hey.. The more the merrier.

[-] chirospasm@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 week ago

Although straightforward, I appreciate they didn't reinvent the wheel here -- Nextcloud plus OnlyOffice is a solid combo to replace the MS365- and Gsuite-like product lines.

[-] siftmama@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

OnlyOffice is both. They have a fantastic web version that integrates well into NextCloud already. And they have a mobile version too. Assuming all of those get forked with it, we can certainly expect a Gsuite alternative.

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[-] grte@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago

I remember seeing a post earlier this year about libreoffice doing a web based version.

Yeah, here it is.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

You're proving my point. They just started working on it 3 months ago. It will be a long time, if ever, before it is a Gsuite replacement. They even said they tried this a few years ago and abandoned it. There's a risk they'd do it again.

So if there's another open source effort specifically focused on an online product, its a good thing.

[-] timochka@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

LibreOffice still hasn't managed to sort out making the UI scalable on Wayland, so you're stuck with either needing a magnifying glass to see the icons or you have to stand in the next room over and nothing in between. Given how many years they've had to work on that, I feel like the odds of them developing a working web UI in my lifetime are pretty slim.

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[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

LibreOffice feels like a java app with 40 years of baggage and tech debt going back to Sun Microsystems

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It feels like when I was trying to use GIMP. In theory there might be a good product in there somewhere, but it's not worth it to wade through the terrible UX decisions in order to find out.

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[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Pretty sure it uses Collabora, which is literally LibreOffice source code in a web shell.

Edit: just checked, they are using OnlyOffice as a base instead of the already European Collabora. Strange choice but so be it.

[-] iglou@programming.dev 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

OnlyOffice has a decent product owned by a pretty shitty business, so I am glad to see another alternative based on their product.

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[-] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

Looks like this is going to be a browser based suite with online collaboration, more like Google docs than Microsoft office.

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[-] greybeard@feddit.online 81 points 1 week ago

If governments across the world gave a quarter of what they give to Microsoft to open source projects that compete, not only would they get to stop paying Microsoft all that money, they'd have a better product to boot. Add to that the side benefit to people and companies using it, and it's pretty obvious why Microsoft will do everything in its power (except make a better product for a better price) to prevent that.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I can't wait for all the Office EU <--> MS365 tools Microsoft make that always make the Office EU software look bad on purpose

[-] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 39 points 1 week ago

i remember hearing this is just a rebrand of onlyoffice, is there something interesting about it (from a technical pov)?

[-] SatyrSack@quokk.au 66 points 1 week ago

https://github.com/Euro-Office

Euro-Office liberates the ONLYOFFICE code base

Euro-Office is based on the ONLYOFFICE Open Source, an AGPL codebase. This code base is being extensively reviewed and cleaned up, with the goal of making it easy to build and contribute to. Why did we resort to a fork, rather than collaborate? Of course, forking should be a last resort. Unfortunately, open collaboration with ONLYOFFICE was not possible, for a number of reasons:

  • Contributing is impossible or greatly discouraged. ONLYOFFICE typically does not review or accept pull requests. Build instructions are unreliable, outdated or just plain broken.
  • The company regularly makes controversial decisions like closing off features in the mobile apps like mobile editing, and the removal of an administrator panel.
  • Lacking transparency. Commit messages, when visible, often just refer to an issue number in an internal issue tracker. There are quite a number of binary blobs and compiled or obfuscated code blobs. Most internal code comments are Russian which makes is hard to work with.
  • The mobile apps are not really open source but just wrappers. Example. The apps have extensive proprietary sections which will need to be re-implemented. Work on this is underway.
  • ONLYOFFICE is a Russian company (despite many attempts to hide this), and nearly all developers reside in Russia. Open Source is a global effort, but current political situation makes collaboration hard and trust difficult to earn. Especially when development is not transparent and open. A lot of users and customers require software that is not potentially influenced or controlled by the Russian government.
[-] grue@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Ah, good riddance to OnlyOffice, then!

[-] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Looks clean and consistent at first glance, which is a huge plus.

[-] pleksi@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 week ago

I’m using nextcloud+onlyoffice as office 365 replacement so this is simply excellent news! Glad i can get rid of onlyoffice the company.

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[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

Despite the name, OnlyOffice has no connection with LibreOffice's ancestor, the Apache Foundation's OnlyOffice

It pisses me off when tech journalists don't bother to double check with a simple web search. Don't even need to actually search, just type in the search bar "apache foundation o" and it autocompletes in "apache foundation OpenOffice"

[-] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

It could be worse:
Apache Foundation's OnlyFans

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[-] rodneylives@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Spotted a typo, it refers to "Apache Foundation's OnlyOffice," when that product is OpenOffice (as one can discover by following the link). This is different from the OnlyOffice mentioned earlier in the paragraph.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

Isn't OpenOffice deprecated? Or am I mistaken?

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

It still exists and gets regular updates, but has been half-dead for 20 years.

I wish OnlyOffice was a little more well-known and community-developed - it's way better at what it does

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[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

LibreOffice is the fork that’s truly community driven. OpenOffice is open source but controlled by big tech.

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[-] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

https://www.techzine.eu/news/infrastructure/140634/dutch-central-bank-chooses-lidl-for-european-cloud/
https://www.techzine.eu/news/infrastructure/141644/kpn-launches-sovereign-cloud-with-stackit-in-the-netherlands/

One of the biggest telecom provider of the Netherlands KPN has started to work with German company Schwarzdigits to create a fully European Cloud as well and they'll release it today!! Looooooooooooooooooooooooove these initiatives !!!! Letsgo Europe 😍 🇪🇺

[-] kepix@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

"Office EU is a complete cloud-based office suite (like Microsoft 365 or Google Workspace) that is 100% European-owned and runs entirely on European infrastructure."

its datafarming

[-] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago
[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

“Cloud-based” is the issue they’re complaining about. I mean we’re talking about an office suite. Those have been able to run on a potato since the 1980’s. Why the heck does that need to be hosted by a supercomputer that somebody else owns and operates?

[-] vividspecter@aussie.zone 11 points 1 week ago

Collaborative editing and the like isn't really easy to solve with other methods. Maybe a P2P approach could be viable.

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[-] FG_3479@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

It can be self hosted, so the cloud can be a computer that you own.

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[-] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well hold on now. Could it be self hosted?

I use google docs when i want a simple document that is accessible and thats useful. I use open office or local programs when i want to drill into the details.

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[-] PlanchettePhantom@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

I think I'm gonna stick with LibreOffice

[-] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Nothing bad in having some variety.

Maybe they'll come up with stuff the other team didn't and both improve that way.

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[-] ozoned@piefed.social 16 points 1 week ago

Looks like it's powered by NextCloud? If so, that's FOSS funding that we all win!

[-] SatyrSack@quokk.au 8 points 1 week ago

Euro-Office seems to have been directly forked from ONLYOFFICE. With that said, the Nextcloud team are some of the core contributors.

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[-] M137@lemmy.today 14 points 1 week ago

I'm disappointed it's not "Euroffice".

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 20 points 1 week ago

That only works in English. It's easier not to try and get clever with naming schemes when it needs to cover 12 different languages including one language that's written right to left.

Also from an administration standpoint it's a pain in the arse having a program with a clever name that you have to explain every time somebody tries to search for it in the company portal, and then can't find it. I already have this issue with some software on our domain called Omny instead of Omni.

[-] this_jury_is_hung@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Beuro works as a pun for English, French and German

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[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

Countries outside of the US are sick and tired of paying for what they see as untrustworthy American-dominated software-as-a-service (SaaS).

SJVn is so hit-and-miss for tech clue, but this resonated.

Canada is a country outside of the US. Can we get on the notion of independence and digital sovereignty yet, or are we still gonna chain our junk flotilla to this Titanic? And when it goes down, will Millhouse still be complaining about how slow we sink?

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

People inside the US are sick of this too.

[-] razen@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Now when are we getting: As-Office, Aus-Office, Afri-Office, NAmeri-Office, SAmeri-Office and Ant-Office?

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