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Euro-Office, Europe's open-source alternative to Microsoft Office and Google Docs, launches June 9 (www.zdnet.com)
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[–] 194 points 4 months ago (54 children)

if only there was a good, actively developed and highly regarded free and open source alternative whose name would be something like "LibreOffice"...

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  • [–] 203 points 4 months ago (17 children)

    I like and use Libreoffice, but its a local application. This makes it fine for working by yourself and on your own hardware. Google Docs (Gstuite) is an online application with the best collaboration integration I've seen and works on nearly any device you can open a modern browser on. Yes, both products have a word processor and a spreadsheet, but they don't serve all the same use cases.

    If this new Euro-office can replicate the Gsuite offerings (that Libreoffice lacks), then Euro-office could be a great addition to the open source community.

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  • [–] 52 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Nah this new Euro-Office is literally a OnlyOffice fork according to their GitHub. It's much closer in comparison to LibreOffice than Google docs.

    They have worked with NextCloud to make Euro-Office an app/add-on (I forget what NextCloud calls them specifically) from this release (v1.0), so that they can integrate with a platform that already.. Has this feature (with Collabora office), but hey.. The more the merrier.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    OnlyOffice is both. They have a fantastic web version that integrates well into NextCloud already. And they have a mobile version too. Assuming all of those get forked with it, we can certainly expect a Gsuite alternative.

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  • [–] 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I remember seeing a post earlier this year about libreoffice doing a web based version.

    Yeah, here it is.

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    You're proving my point. They just started working on it 3 months ago. It will be a long time, if ever, before it is a Gsuite replacement. They even said they tried this a few years ago and abandoned it. There's a risk they'd do it again.

    So if there's another open source effort specifically focused on an online product, its a good thing.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    LibreOffice still hasn't managed to sort out making the UI scalable on Wayland, so you're stuck with either needing a magnifying glass to see the icons or you have to stand in the next room over and nothing in between. Given how many years they've had to work on that, I feel like the odds of them developing a working web UI in my lifetime are pretty slim.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Have you tried https://cryptpad.fr/ ?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Is cryptpad able to open existing docx files? Last time I checked I couldn't figure out how to do it. I mostly need to edit word documents that people send me, and send them back the same format.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    It can import most file types supported by only office

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Where is that option? I'm only getting the option to create a new document for some reason, and to export documents created on cryptpad to docx. I assumed it was because they only figured out the conversion one way but maybe I'm just missing the button?

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    An office suite for collaborating ? Great idea ! I brt they would call it something like "Collabora Office" !

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    LibreOffice feels like a java app with 40 years of baggage and tech debt going back to Sun Microsystems

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    It feels like when I was trying to use GIMP. In theory there might be a good product in there somewhere, but it's not worth it to wade through the terrible UX decisions in order to find out.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Afaik there's a port that makes the ui more like Photoshop, I forget the name, maybe another lemming can fill it in.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    There were several attempts for that. The most recent one is PhotoGIMP, which is actually a patch and not a port. Before that, there used to be Gimpshop, but the dude behind it got fucked over by someone who bought a dotcom domain with that name and served ad and spyware. Though, ever since the major gui rework several years ago, i don't see much of a point. It is a different software, no matter how much you try to cover it up, the functionality and workflow will always be different. And most other commercial software don't constantly try to copy some other software either.

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  • [+] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)
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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Isn’t Only Office European too? My memory tells me it’s from Estonia. It’s Europe!

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    No it's not. The main company is Russian and they try way too hard to hide the fact that they are from Russia. They constantly creating new sub companies in Estonia, Cypher, UK and some more and transfer the HQ there while main Company is still in Russia along with CEO that owns it.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    Oh, that’s sad. Thanks for informing me (and others) on that part! Considering the war in Ukraine (where I live now), there’s a no way, I’m going to use it then. In this case, I agree. Having a European solution is better than using Russian or even USian.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    it seems to be latvia according to wikipedia

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Looks like this is going to be a browser based suite with online collaboration, more like Google docs than Microsoft office.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Would only be interested if there's a local version as well that can turn syncing on or off. A purely web based office suite is unappealing.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    OpenOffice?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Uhh, you realize it's just OnlyOffice, right? Another actively developed, free and open source (but web-first, vs desktop first) software?

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    While they claim to be open source, OnlyOffice uses their trademark to block forks and derivative work. Which is why this Euro Office was created, along with more control over mobile apps, since that part has issues as well.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Why are there so many different open source office suites? Wouldn't it be more effective if they joined forces? Or do they have incompatible visions?

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    Because before cloud vendor subscription lock-in was considered socially acceptable, there were a lot of big tech companies that wanted to be seen being “open source” in name to court customers while locking you in by other means. “Open”Office is the quintessential example, but it is by no means a unique situation in the “Open” source world.

    It happens often enough that there are some people who get very upset with you for not knowing the difference between “Open Source”, “open source”, and “source available”.

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