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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Agentic is such a shitty fucking word to describe how this works that you can tell it was dreamed up by fucking business and marketing idiots.

All of the new "agentic" models talk to themselves and consider it "thinking". It's completely ridiculous. Of course they eat up a lot of tokens, they're fucking chattering with themselves.

There's no way to quantify the amount of "tokens" any given task will take because the "thinking" chatter is verbose and unpredictable as shit. You can send it in a question like "What is happening?" and it burns through a million tokens trying to describe why the latest bash command it tried to run is taking fucking forever because it didn't write the command correctly and it is permanently paused waiting for stdin.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago

I see some young dude shilling this on tiktok where he had this claude war room setup that kind of looked like an idle miner game with them all working for him. He supposedly said they were making him more money then they cost him. But then he showed their "work" and it was all them just selling AI art on Etzy, which feels not sustainable and also like such a lazy scam. All I am thinking is how much energy and water it's taking for someone to buy some disappointing AI art from someone they thought was a real person.

[-] BabyVi@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I was looking for wall art on Etsy a few months ago but just gave up, the majority of listings are AI slop now.

[-] No1@aussie.zone 6 points 6 hours ago

Sounds like it's rife for exploitation. If the AI company's revenue needed a boost this quarter, just send out an update that does a few extra loops of talking to itself.

[-] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 hours ago

Did they literally learn nothing from “The Mythical Man Month?” Geesh.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

No, management as an overall group rarely learns anything from failed concepts. Hope springs eternal, so whenever something new promises a productivity revolution, there are always clueless managers who think it will get them into yacht world. They're treating AI like a bag of Magic Beans, while legions of equally clueless spectators demonize the tech for the stupid decisions those managers are making. AI is a very promising technology that's simply not ready for how it's being used.

[-] vane@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I miss times where you copy pasted whatever you had to google and correct stack overflow link was first result so you copy pasted first answer back to your IDE and everything magically worked. Now it's tokenmaxxing, ai guide spec files, skill files, agentic development, copilot code reviews and trainings because you're doing things wrong, you need to be context engineer, vibe code engineer, prompt engineer to use AI efficiently but event if you do all of it you're still doing things wrong.

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 11 hours ago

A vibe Cuck. Please daddy, please implement this as a function.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

I know some people at a company where they pushed AI hard. Told employees to use it as much as possible, we'll pay for the tokens, and people were running out of tokens in the first week and the company didnt want to pay for more so they had to wait for counters to reset.

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 69 points 1 day ago

People who repeatedly make horrible decisions, with no sign of learning, should not be allowed to continue making decisions. All of these frothy pro-ai people need to go. Let them spend the rest of their days picking up litter or something useful.

[-] Ogy@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

Rich people make the decisions though, and they earned the right to decide how the world economy runs because their ancestors worked hard (owned slaves)!

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 10 points 9 hours ago

I don't know any of the surrounding context but I think about this poem (?) a lot

"Get off this estate."

"What for?"

"Because it's mine."

"Where did you get it?"

"From my father."

"Where did he get it?"

"From his father."

"And where did he get it?"

"He fought for it."

"Well, I'll fight you for it.

Carl Sandburg, Selected Poems

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 90 points 1 day ago

it’s now apparent that using AI is more expensive than hiring people, especially since it offers only limited productivity gains at the moment.

And there it is: the wakeup call. The sound of a bubble at least deflating a bit (probably more to come). But we all know it will take months or years for that realization to really sink in. Corporate leadership will mess around trying to cut costs while denying they made a bad call by falling for the hype.

Also, this isn't just hitting tech giants by the way. This is hitting everyone who jumped on the AI bandwagon. What were going to see is a frantic scramble in two directions:

  1. hiring a subset of people back because the C-level now realizes they are under-staffed for purpose - emphasis on subset, because they will happily keep overloading those remaining as much as possible.

  2. pivoting to open source in-house hosted models to cut costs, and initially struggling with all the janky tooling that will come with it. But even once the tooling has been improved to be somewhat usable, there will still be some initial frustration with these models. For all the problems with the bleeding edge ChatGPT and Claude models, in most cases they are more useable than the self-hosted ones, which lag by a couple of generations.

What I'm hoping to see is the push to rely on AI drop off sharply and a resurgence for online community collaboration and resources. They weren't perfect, but at least they keep one's critical thinking and research skills a little sharper.

[-] HobbitFoot 17 points 1 day ago

I don't know if a lot of tech needs to hire back. Outside of AI, tech adoption is on the right side of the adoption S-curve and most development time right now is going to revenue generation.

And if you do need to hire back, you don't need to hire from HCOL areas. Make the position full remote and price the salary to a LCOL area. You don't need to pay a Bay Area wage any more.

[-] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago

lol you think those fucking idiots will go back to remote work? they've spent every year since covid trying to force everyone back into the office.

[-] HobbitFoot 7 points 1 day ago

They will for new hires when they can pay them 50%.

[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't know if a lot of tech needs to hire back.

I think many CEOs will see it that way. Better to underhire and ride their slop code base into further customer loss, data breaches, lawsuits and bankruptcy, than put up a weak quarter while something can still be done to save the business.

[-] HobbitFoot 2 points 1 day ago

Has any data breach ever significantly hurt a company financially?

[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hard to say, for sure, in each case. There's often plenty of factors that could have been key. Fuck-ups tend to fuck up in a variety of interesting ways.

An obvious seeming one is Roomba's infamous leaked person-on-toilet picture. I didn't stop buying Roomba because I doubted their engineering. It was their (lack of a) Privacy team.

[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago

Agentic really moved the needle on this. I mean, if your LLM is suffering from a limit, why not let another LLM watch it. While that's going on, why not let yet another orchestrating LLM watch all the LLMs and tell them what to do. It starts to get confusing fast so better use yaLLM (yet another LLM) to watch the whole circus.

[-] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 46 points 1 day ago

Good, fucking crash and burn bastards!

[-] uuj8za@piefed.social 22 points 1 day ago

tokenmaxxing

I'm doing my part. 👍

[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

At most, Ill prompt a LLM single chat now sub agents no running around. Justvl a very small focused task, I hate the agentic stuff. Its always crap.

The autocomplete is ok, it's nice for highly repetitive stuff.

But in my view if your doing something highly repetitive you probably shouldn't be doing it by hand lol. So most the patterns I use avoid that even

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