Bambu used to only remotely disable your printer if you didn't connect it to their servers. Then they sent a legal team to harass you if you tried to circumvent this restriction.
Now they remotely burn your house down.
I'm trying SO hard not to be smug, but I sense a sort of vindication from staying FAR away from these (admittedly initially impressive) machines when I heard how locked down, cloud-connected, and appliance-like they were.
"Somehow 'I told you so'. . . doesn't quite cut it."
–Will Smith as Detective Spooner, "i-Robot"
Well feel smug i have had two and been the best printers I have ever owned. Well I purchase another probably not the way things are going but no regrets and keeping it till it stops working.
I really wanted a p1s after my first ender 3 woes, thank goodness I was too broke att!
I've really watched Bambu go from darling of the 3d printer community, to "yeah there's some issues but the results are just so good I still recommend them" to "Bambu is literally Satan"
the results are just so good I still recommend them
It helps that other brands have become much more competitive in terms of feature set, pricing, and customer support! Perhaps they were ahead of the game in the past, but brands like Prusa, Qidi, Elegoo, Snapmaker, etc. are leapfrogging Bambu nowadays!
Public sentiment about your brand is a currency and they cashed all of theirs in within the span of like a week.
The controversy started like a year ago... Firmware version 1.8
All in the span of like a week now too which is wild
Nah, opinions of them have been sliding for a while. The software licensing stuff is just a topic that attracts certain vultures, making coverage suddenly explode.
What's amazing is it was fast. Like I was playing with my mk3s when they where first a thing, and now I'm thinking of retiring it for a core xy and bamboo has done the entire story arc.
Build a Voron!
Dig through my comment history and you'll see pros and cons of choosing to do so. If you like building and modding it's hard to beat. The build is pretty long, but you'll learn a lot.
I'll be honest. If it was me 7-10 years ago I would do it. Current me however gives away 3d printers to people (first one is free...) that don't fit my current needs. So for the next FDM printer it's probably going to be a Prusa Core One.
used to love building printers. hated printing parts for printers. It's all ABS/ASA and those are hard to print, what with the warping and bed/layer adhesion and toxic fumes. I print on a Railcore, which is an absolute beast of a printer and probably more sturdy than your average Voron, but it really wasn't designed to be fully sealed so anything other than PLA has been a struggle for me.
They where never the Darling the hard cores I was here first crowd always hated them.
Hardcore users don't get to pick the darling. Revenue does.
Revenue isn't what defines a darling; it's about being universally loved and a popular choice. The one who is always topping youtube review lists as a best-buy. And especially when they started small and are still growing.
Yes - that might in turn lead to becoming the dominant player with the most revenue, but the revenue is the result, not the cause.
They're working on "something".
Working on pointing out that Bambu Labs has known about the issue and failed to issue a recall. They just need the failure analysis lab report to prove that it is a design/manufacturing/QA defect so they can pin the responsibility on Bambu Labs.
In the legal world, knowing about a problem and failing to fix it opens you up for punitive damages if that problem causes harm.
Typically, if an damaging event happens and the manufacturer is found responsible, then they are only liable for the damage caused (i.e. the fire damage and printer replacement).
If they are found to have known about this in advance and failed to fix the problem prior to it causing harm to the plantiff then the plaintiff can also seek punitive damage which are not limited to the damage caused and are instead a means of punishing the company for not taking responsibility and fixing the issue that they were aware of.
This is why you see lawsuits resulting from tens of thousands of dollars of damages being awarded millions of dollars.
As it turns out, it is a bad idea piss off a community of highly motivated individuals with the knowledge and technical skills to highlight your shitty business practices.
Exactly right, which is why the hot McDonald's coffee lawsuit had such a high penalty. They were knowingly giving near-boiling coffee to their customers to avoid giving free refills, and knew about the dangers and burns caused to their customers for years.
Punitive damages are the capitalist system answer to disregard for damages caused by products and business practices.
Then they engaged in a smear campaign against a woman who suffered 2nd and 3rd degree burns on her genitals. People laughed about it for years. But hey, McRib and Szechuan sauce.
Sure but McDonalds won the public option on that. People still bring it up as a stupid lawsuit.
Due to McDonald's twisting the truth. That woman was seriously harmed but McDonalds lawyers spun it into a joke.
Well that's awfully nice of them.
Steve is the GOAT. They've done this in the past for GPUs that melted/caught fire at the power connection port. They also replaced someone's PC that was lost in an unrelated house fire.
Gamers Nexus is great content.
They constantly seem to do the right thing. Like honest people wanting to report honest news, findings and research in depth to people transparently.
Like Louis Rossmann, tho I prefer Steve & GN
Hahaha they are both about rage. Steve has some good stuff ocaisionaly but can't stand rossmann.
WHAT
Which models are affected???
A1 model has multiple reports, I'm not sure about others yet
And only recent ones or older ones too? I luckily don’t own an A1, but if other models are affected I might never use them again
Pre-2025 ones. I have to check mine :-(
Well fuck need to check mine then. Bought it used so I don't know if it's older than that
Seen elswhere : it seems that it's due to high current with 110V. I am on 220V so it's less prone to default.
It's the NTC component on the alimentation board.
EDIT. No. The 220V is also prone to the issue :-(
bambu really stuck their dick deep in that beehive, didn't they...
couldn't have happened to more deserving company.
Finally got around to checking mine this morning, luckily I don't have the component
Fuck Bambu
Dang that was the first 3d printer company that had me intrigued... Hopefully this is making hay is a short lived field, but it's not great publicity
Sorry if I’m the bearer of bad news, but this is somehow not the thing Bambu is doing that is their biggest issue with consumer trust right now.
There are probably plenty of posts here on Lemmy about the issues with the AGPL, potential violations, and sending sketchy legal threats to hobbyists trying to let people use their printers without going through Bambu servers; it is likely worth looking around for the latest on that debacle
You can read about these incidents here: https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Bambu_Lab
They've also threatened hobbyists trying to let use people use their printers explicitly with using Bambu servers!
And most people don't care about the AGPL. There are so many companies violating their software licenses. Ask UNIFI for their source.
Go with Prusa.
They offer printers with the same level of technology and the company is very pro-consumer. The slicer that Bambu Labs ships was forked from the open source slicer developed by Prusa.
This. For some reason there are people out there are still hell-bend on telling everyone Prusa would be "behind the curve" or "overpriced". Ignore that nonsense. They're pricey, but they're also quality and even more relevant right now the printer will be truly yours. Their services like Printables just work, meanwhile the first thing Makerworld slaps into your face is either begging to make an account or forcing you to just to download something.
I mean... I love prusa and their hardware is really really good, but calling them "pricey" is a just a bit of an understatement. You can buy 4 snapmaker U1s for the price of a Prusa XL (or cover my rent for 5 months...), and there's no appreciable difference in print quality between the machines. The XL uses higher quality components, but not so much that the difference is gonna be relevant to a consumer level (or realistically even to a hobby level) user.
I'm pretty surprised they still sell that one. It was one of the first (or even the first?) multihead printers and therefore of course very expensive, but by now… their Core+ is very much the reasonable one.
(Not the first by at least a decade, but for sure the first one that was available outside of industry (and actually worked))
Presumably they're continuing to sell the XL because INDX isn't available yet (hopefully soon). At the moment it's still one of only 3 available machines (2.5 really; bambu h2c only kinda counts) with nozzle swapping, and it really is an amazingly good machine. But even once INDX becomes available for the Core One, it's still going to be more than twice what a U1 costs for a much smaller build area. I'd really like a Core One L with INDX, especially because it has an enclosure + heater and the U1 doesn't, but that's going to be almost 4 months of rent for unreleased-but-hopefully-equivalent technology (admittedly with a 30mm larger build area) to the U1, which is only 1 month of rent on proven hardware which I can go and buy right now.
The value for the user they deliver is in the meta-characteristics like their position on opensource (though uh... snapmaker is kinda winning on that point too), their tech support and their community, and unfortunately these days it's not directly reflected in the hardware. That's not to say it's not top notch hardware, but that no longer sets you apart - Bambu alone has demonstrated that (and lets not forget the MK4S had a catch-on-fire problem back in the day, too. Of course, prusa decided not to be utter bastards about it...). You can get equally good machines for at least 1/2 the price, and the differences between hardened ground linear bearings and unhardened el-cheapo linear bearings will never become apparent for 99% of end users.
I really hope that Bambu gets taken down for this (though it's unlikely they'll go away entirely), and I'd love an INDX machine... but I can't justify spending four months rent on something where the cheaper options give identical results. They're almost a luxury brand - great if you can afford them, but most people absolutely can't. And honestly at this point they're just too expensive to be a useful recommendation for people trying to get into the hobby.
That helpful link shows just the A1? I have an a1 mini from 2024 I hope I don't get this issue? Now that I know more about 3d printing I'll be er give my money to bambu again. Literally cancer to open source, glad I've never connected my printer to WAN and always have it in LAN mode.
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