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[–] 59 points 5 months ago (1 child)

Didn't he just say we were doing fine?

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  • [–] 56 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    You can just say anything apparently. Nothing matters.

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    You always could, we just used to kill people in power who did it too much. Then the people in power started teaching us that violence is never the answer, and the rest is history.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Trump could have been voted out. Lack of violence was not the problem.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    The party is responsible for keeping him in power. Fascist enablers are fascist too

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    First of all the voters are responsible. They are easily manipulated so the parties, the elite, the media and others are responsible, too. But we have to stop using democracy if the voters are so unreliable that they don't count.

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  • [–] 36 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    America is so fucked with this guy at the helm.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    I can easily see him saying this followed by, "and it's all Biden's fault"

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    One of the few times I fully agree with Trump. It's time to close up shop.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    We have been in a decline since 1990.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    1981*. Reagan started the process of transferring wealth from the working class to the ultra wealthy through 'trickle down' economics. The idea spread beyond the US and now we are all destined for indentured servitude.

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  • [+] -33 points 5 months ago (17 children)

    Again stop making me defend Trump even in minor ways but this is right and it started pre Trump, he hasn't helped but its not like it can be blamed on him either.

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  • [–] 38 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    ... Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and blame the catastrophic decline on Trump. Sure, Fox News, Reagan, Citizens United, and a hundred other distracted disasters preceded Trump, but that Nazi shitbag has driven the U.S. straight off a cliff. The damage from his hand selected supreme court alone is terrifying.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago

    The biggest decline actually happened this term and especially in foreign policy. Some of the things he did no longer can be recovered.

    It also looks like it's pretty much certain that he won't defend Taiwan which will lead to another unrepairable damage.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago

    We're not blaming the country's entire decline on Trump, just the recent acceleration of the decline. A country can't be brought as low as this in less than a decade unless it was already pretty low to begin with, but when a new factor causes an existing problem to accelerate, then that variable can certainly be blamed for the acceleration, along with the other variables that also play into the problem as a whole.

    Trump is to blame for our country's decline, and so are republicans as a whole, and so are billionaires, and so are a bunch of other groups of people and many other variables.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    stop making me

    nobody is making you, it's a choice

    he's not like he can be blamed

    lights your house on fire, it burns to the ground "it's not like I'm to blame for this" --your logic

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  • [–] -5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    House was already on fire so no your analogy is inaccurate.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    "I didn't start it so why should I stop it"

    "yeah, what he said!"

    and these people vote, jfc

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    "I didn't start it so why should I stop it" not pour this metric ton of gasoline on the fire. Also, why should I not fire the firefrigade and replace them with hools? The house was on fire, after all.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    Nobody said the blame is on Trump alone. Xi doesn't imply it. Trump is even spinning it like the us would be way worse if it weren't for him. The people who believe it is Trumps fault aren't there, they're here lurking in the comment section. So, if you don't want to defend Trump maybe don't waste your time doing it? It's not like you could fix everything that is wrong or untrue om the internet. I've been trying and so far i haven't really gotten anything meaningful in return lol, maybe some friendly advise at most.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    That obese child rapist wouldn't defend you in anything, at all, ever. You're not rich enough for a disgusting blob of gonorrhoea like that to even think about, and even then you'd have to pay for that orange thing to defend you.

    So are you really sure you want to be known as a tRUMP defender?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    Defending this take yes not Trump at all , Trump is right when he says the sky is blue for example. It doesn't help us to make up stuff to hate him for when there is plenty already there.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Sweet, you are now a tRUMP defender.

    Pedant

    Well done you. Wear your moniker with pride.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    It absolutely can be blamed on him, and saying it can't is either ignorant or making excuses for him and his ilk.

    He normalized so much shitty behavior, manipulated the Republican party into being even more shameless than they had been previously, and finally completely untethered politics from reality. Just look at how behavior changed around the time he entered politics and they realized that you can do anything with a cult of personality and a base of thoughtless dipshits who parrot every dumbass thought you have as gospel.

    That's not to say he's entirely responsible, but he is the nexus point of dozens of shitty subcultures that were amplified and directed by him, leading to where we are today. If we'd gotten someone like Rubio or Jeb! in 2016 (assuming Hillary still fucked up her campaign and ignored half the country), the world would look MUCH different.

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