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In the latest episode of "they will always sell you out" - they sold you out! Who would've thought.

Hoping for a good alternative client to appear, the writing is on the wall. Vaultwarden can't exist without "leeching" off of Bitwarden.

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[-] AverageEarthling@feddit.online 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The year of keepass and syncthing!.

[-] outerspace@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago

Sad. Replaced everything with keepassxc + syncthing

[-] lavander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago

I am confused. Aren’t their clients open source? How many milliseconds will take till 100s folks will fork it?

Their server is useless and Vaultwarden is already a superior option

While I agree that they are a “at risk” company, I don’t think the software itself is at risk

[-] RonnyZittledong@lemmy.world 256 points 4 days ago

Jesus, I'm tired of switching password managers.

[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 4 days ago

KeePassXC + KeePassDX is probably the best option, with the downside of no way to sync easily (syncthing is probably the best option there)

I might switch back at some point, been getting frustrated with the bitwarden extension performance always being so poor.

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[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 days ago

Goddammit. Why can't we have nice things?

[-] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 3 days ago

All hail the new Chief Enshittification Officer!

[-] wickedrando@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 days ago

i was just thinking this week with the passphrase addition how good bitwarden is and when will the other shoe drop. There it is.

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[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 61 points 3 days ago

Ah shit. Here we go again!

[-] osanna@lemmy.vg 28 points 3 days ago

Can anyone say “Enshittification”!

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[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 105 points 4 days ago

That’s troubling, I don’t like what this portends.

The new CEOs background especially suggests they’re spiffing up the company for a later sellout, why else would they pick a merger specialist for the role?

[-] Cyber@feddit.uk 33 points 3 days ago

My solution:

https://keepass.info/donate.html

(& yes, I'm linking to their donate page first)

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

Keep ass what though? /s

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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

I'm going to have to just write my own one of these fucking things aren't I?

[-] BritishJ@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

KeePassXC and Vaultwarden exist

[-] captcha_incorrect@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

And Strongbox for iOS. They communicate with KeepassXC to keep the vaults compatible with both software.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 80 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think the original title was more helpful because it shows that this is a recent development. Maybe you can add "new CEO"?

Bitwarden scrubs ‘Always free’ and ‘Inclusion’ values from its website as longtime execs step down

In February, longtime CEO Michael Crandell moved to an advisory role, according to LinkedIn, with no announcement from the company. His replacement, Michael Sullivan, former CEO of both Acquia and Insightsoftware, touts his experience with “all facets of mergers and acquisitions” on his own LinkedIn page, including experience working with leading private equity firms.

CFO Stephen Morrison also left Bitwarden in April, replaced by former InVision CEO Michael Shenkman. Both Crandell and Morrison joined the company in 2019. Kyle Spearrin, who started Bitwarden as a fun hobby project in 2015, remains the company’s CTO.

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[-] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 55 points 4 days ago

Every company is basically evil at this point.

[-] iamthetot@piefed.ca 35 points 4 days ago

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

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[-] evil_andy@sh.itjust.works 57 points 4 days ago

Well, poop.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is why corporate promises can never be trusted, because a new CEO can change those promises on a whim.

It's part of why despite being interested in Beeper, I never signed up for it because I had questions about if those privacy promises they made would be kept if they sold to a bigger company... which they eventually did.

On the plus side Bitwarden already made an official open source self-hosted version, which can be forked and/or return to the community developed Vaultwarden roots.

Meanwhile KeepassXC keeps on chugging along.

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[-] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 40 points 4 days ago

Has Vaultwarden said anything yet? I imagine that, if necessary, given that bitwarden's client is still open, at the point they choose to try and close it, we, the users, can fork it and establish it for vaultwarden, correct? Or, maybe even the vaultwarden team will think about forking it themselves and making a light client as well to pair with the current server.

But Vaultwarden can exist without "leeching" they just haven't needed to yet. That's more symbiotic than parasitic. The parasite class just took over Bitwarden after all.

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[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago

I fucking knew this would happen years ago. Something always smelled "off" about BW.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

namely the VC funding and the huge resource hungry clients to me

[-] gergolippai@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

you saw that something on the internet will go to shit in a couple of years? speak to us, oracle! :)

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Right? Lmao who would've thought??

[-] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 34 points 4 days ago

They responded on reddit and walked some of it back as an "oversight": https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitwarden/comments/1tdvnh7/comment/olznwcv/. Allegedly, I'm too lazy to verify.

[-] blarth 50 points 4 days ago

A change that would require intent to make is not a mistake or oversight.

This sucks. I committed to Bitwarden years ago and now am going to have to switch before they lock me in the garden.

[-] german@pawb.social 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They also haven’t addressed the removal of inclusion and transparency from their goals.

EDIT: They did. They said it’s “less of a priority”. The article I shared has been updated. I smell corporate bullshit though. “Oversight” this, “priority shift” that, they’d have to work hard to gain any trust back.

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[-] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Move to KeePassXC or its recent LLM-free fork while you still can, because at some point Bitwarden is going to try to go closed-source again.

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