In the latest episode of "they will always sell you out" - they sold you out! Who would've thought.

Hoping for a good alternative client to appear, the writing is on the wall. Vaultwarden can't exist without "leeching" off of Bitwarden.

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[–] 264 points 3 months ago (15 children)

Jesus, I'm tired of switching password managers.

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  • [–] 82 points 3 months ago (15 children)

    KeePassXC + KeePassDX is probably the best option, with the downside of no way to sync easily (syncthing is probably the best option there)

    I might switch back at some point, been getting frustrated with the bitwarden extension performance always being so poor.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 months ago (38 children)

    KeePass isn't going anywhere. They're also dragging their feet on passkey support, so you might go with KeepassXC.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    @slate

    Wasn't there some commotion a few weeks about KeepassXC and vibe coding?

    @RonnyZittledong

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    [–] 107 points 3 months ago

    That’s troubling, I don’t like what this portends.

    The new CEOs background especially suggests they’re spiffing up the company for a later sellout, why else would they pick a merger specialist for the role?

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  • [–] 80 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    I think the original title was more helpful because it shows that this is a recent development. Maybe you can add "new CEO"?

    Bitwarden scrubs ‘Always free’ and ‘Inclusion’ values from its website as longtime execs step down

    In February, longtime CEO Michael Crandell moved to an advisory role, according to LinkedIn, with no announcement from the company. His replacement, Michael Sullivan, former CEO of both Acquia and Insightsoftware, touts his experience with “all facets of mergers and acquisitions” on his own LinkedIn page, including experience working with leading private equity firms.

    CFO Stephen Morrison also left Bitwarden in April, replaced by former InVision CEO Michael Shenkman. Both Crandell and Morrison joined the company in 2019. Kyle Spearrin, who started Bitwarden as a fun hobby project in 2015, remains the company’s CTO.

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  • [–] 62 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Ah shit. Here we go again!

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  • [–] 57 points 3 months ago

    Well, poop.

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  • [–] 55 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Every company is basically evil at this point.

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  • [–] 50 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (11 children)

    This is why corporate promises can never be trusted, because a new CEO can change those promises on a whim.

    It's part of why despite being interested in Beeper, I never signed up for it because I had questions about if those privacy promises they made would be kept if they sold to a bigger company... which they eventually did.

    On the plus side Bitwarden already made an official open source self-hosted version, which can be forked and/or return to the community developed Vaultwarden roots.

    Meanwhile KeepassXC keeps on chugging along.

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    [–] 42 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    Has Vaultwarden said anything yet? I imagine that, if necessary, given that bitwarden's client is still open, at the point they choose to try and close it, we, the users, can fork it and establish it for vaultwarden, correct? Or, maybe even the vaultwarden team will think about forking it themselves and making a light client as well to pair with the current server.

    But Vaultwarden can exist without "leeching" they just haven't needed to yet. That's more symbiotic than parasitic. The parasite class just took over Bitwarden after all.

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    [–] 37 points 3 months ago

    Goddammit. Why can't we have nice things?

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  • [–] 36 points 3 months ago

    All hail the new Chief Enshittification Officer!

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  • [–] 35 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    They responded on reddit and walked some of it back as an "oversight": https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitwarden/comments/1tdvnh7/comment/olznwcv/. Allegedly, I'm too lazy to verify.

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  • [–] 51 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    A change that would require intent to make is not a mistake or oversight.

    This sucks. I committed to Bitwarden years ago and now am going to have to switch before they lock me in the garden.

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  • [–] [S] 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    They also haven’t addressed the removal of inclusion and transparency from their goals.

    EDIT: They did. They said it’s “less of a priority”. The article I shared has been updated. I smell corporate bullshit though. “Oversight” this, “priority shift” that, they’d have to work hard to gain any trust back.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    My solution:

    https://keepass.info/donate.html

    (& yes, I'm linking to their donate page first)

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    i was just thinking this week with the passphrase addition how good bitwarden is and when will the other shoe drop. There it is.

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    [–] 24 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Move to KeePassXC or its recent LLM-free fork while you still can, because at some point Bitwarden is going to try to go closed-source again.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago*

    For once ADHD preventing me from completing a migration is a boon, I guess I'll move back to keepass

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I'm going to have to just write my own one of these fucking things aren't I?

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    [–] 15 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Clue me in on why vaultwarden can’t exist without it?

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago

    Sad. Replaced everything with keepassxc + syncthing

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