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In the latest episode of "they will always sell you out" - they sold you out! Who would've thought.

Hoping for a good alternative client to appear, the writing is on the wall. Vaultwarden can't exist without "leeching" off of Bitwarden.

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[-] RonnyZittledong@lemmy.world 263 points 1 month ago

Jesus, I'm tired of switching password managers.

[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 81 points 1 month ago

KeePassXC + KeePassDX is probably the best option, with the downside of no way to sync easily (syncthing is probably the best option there)

I might switch back at some point, been getting frustrated with the bitwarden extension performance always being so poor.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago

Sync however you want. Syncthing, Nextcloud, Dropbox, Gdrive etc.

[-] Flagstaff@programming.dev 15 points 1 month ago

Syncthing is the way to leave Google Drive, etc.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

I use Nextcloud myself, but if people don't want to host a server or fuck with syncthing, they can sync it however they want as long as they use a strong enough master password/phrase (which they should be anyway.).

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[-] fatalicus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Is there a proper syncthing android client now, after the official android client was discontinued?

[-] Flagstaff@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

Solid question; there are only third-party apps. A recent discussion in !syncthing@lemmy.ml led me to most recently adopt BasicSync, which is incredibly low-profile and is probably the closest thing we can get to it.

However... if you want to get as pure as possible, you can apparently run Syncthing's Linux version directly in Termux on Android without the need for a dedicated Android app. There are also entire alternatives to Syncthing like syncspirit (which can also be run through Termux and which I'm considering trying as well).

[-] recursivethinking@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Syncthing Fork works well for Android

[-] german@pawb.social 16 points 1 month ago

Merge conflicts are a concern for KeePass, especially for those that don’t want to resolve them. Sync is difficult. AFAIK this is a very common issue with Syncthing setups.

Also, the portability from Bitwarden to KP leaves a bit to be desired, though that’s probably 90% on BW.

[-] eli@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I've been using KeePass with Syncthing for 5+ years now and I think I've only had a sync issue once in all this time.

Granted I do make sure I only use the database on one device at a time (so not making edits on desktop and my phone at the same time) and I'm using XC and DX clients not the OG KeePass program.

I'm curious what is causing sync issues to make it "common", I use my db every day.

[-] german@pawb.social 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, it’s not an uncommon use case to accidentally or even intentionally edit the database on two online devices - I do it all the time when I want a new login to be used on my laptop right after I signed up for some new website on my PC, and the laptop just happens to have an “unpushed” change from last evening, or I edit the new login’s metadata, or whatever.

With this, I’d have to keep a mental model of the versioning of each database and avoid even touching my phone like the plague if KeePass is open on my computer.

It’s not that big of a deal, it’ll probably be a problem once every few months, but it’s annoying to keep track of and worth talking about.

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[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

I switched over to keepass yesterday, and surprisingly the import from BW was perfect (as far as I can tell), even passkeys came over just fine.

[-] elmicha@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

I'm using Keepass2Android (and KeepassXC). It can copy the database from/to an sftp server, so it can easily merge the entries. I don't have the sftp server exposed to the Internet, because when I'm not home, nobody will change the database at home.

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[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago

My first password manager was KeePassXC.

Hooked it up with Syncthing, and I've never had issues aside from the occasion database duplicate.

[-] Flagstaff@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

Right, and it has a neat merge-database feature anyway, so no excuses for those holding back!

[-] tremble5218@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

Rclone with any cloud provider is another great option that's seldom mentioned. I posted my setup as a comment on another post. You may find it here - https://programming.dev/comment/23849767

[-] auntieclokwise@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I use KeePass with KeeAnywhere. KeePass can natively sync over network share, FTP, or WebDav. With plugins, it can sync over SSH, FTPS, Amazon S3 compatible buckets (including open source compatible versions you host yourself), Azure, Box, Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive, and more.

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[-] elaina@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah the performance is what made me install the desktop app, but then it's 1gb in size

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[-] slate@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 month ago

KeePass isn't going anywhere. They're also dragging their feet on passkey support, so you might go with KeepassXC.

[-] zeitverschreib@freundica.de 18 points 1 month ago

@slate

Wasn't there some commotion a few weeks about KeepassXC and vibe coding?

@RonnyZittledong

[-] Dumhuvud@programming.dev 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, there was. It was forked because of that, actually: https://codeberg.org/ChiPass

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[-] blackbrook@mander.xyz 10 points 1 month ago

Their AI policy looks very reasonable, and they certainly aren't vibe coding. Everything is rigorously reviewed and tested by a handful of experienced, competent humans.

[-] eightys3v3n@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

They also don't effectively allow collaboration though, which is my cheif reason for using a cloud hosted password manager.

[-] Flagstaff@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

What is "collaboration" in this context?

[-] eightys3v3n@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Sharing passwords between groups of people so everyone always has the up to date version. Not breaking the world if two people try to modify the same entry as some file syncing solutions do.

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[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Parallel creating, reading, updating, deleting password entries by multiple users.

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[-] tordenflesk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Took me like 5 minutes to move back to KeepassXC.

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[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I just got Bit warden this year! Gah. Where are we jumping?

[-] testaccount789@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

Full circle to sticky notes on monitor.

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[-] bordam@feddit.it 2 points 1 month ago

Password Store is the answer, if you don’t need passkey support. You can be sure it can’t be sold. It’s the golden middle: not self hosted, but not owned by anyone.

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