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[–] 56 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'd like an example of a site that does this. Name and shame. It might be the choice of the developer, too.

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    The support page both refer to seems to be real though? https://support.google.com/recaptcha/answer/16609652?hl=en

    Does what it's saying mean that Google Play Services is required to pass their captchas on mobile?

    Edit: Found a comment in the Reddit thread from someone claiming to have seen one of these captchas in the wild, which supposedly does do this check but is easily bypassed:

    Got good news, I just had this captcha. As you can see in the image there is an audio and an eye icon at the bottom. We can protest against this captcha by clicking the eye and doing the original one. As long as a substantial amount of people keep doing that I assume it wont' go away.

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  • [+] 55 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    A website that pulls this crap is a website I will simply not use.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    That's all fine until you actually need the site. If it's your bank, payment portal for your new apartment, scheduling page for your doctor, etc. Not every site is optional.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    You can visit your bank in person, send a check to pay for your apartment, call your doctor to schedule an appointment, etc. Not everything has to be done online.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    That might be true where you live, good for you. Where I'm from, calling the doctor is still possible, but the other two examples are not an option or practically unfeasible. So many services are digital by default, some have options for communication by physical mail, but that comes with extra fees. Straight up avoiding websites if they use these new captchas introduces a disproportionate burden.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    If a school's assignment submission software has it, it's not the same story.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    My kids' school district provides district-managed chromebooks. I stuck them on their own walled-off VLAN. Out of sight, out of mind. Any time my kids come to me with an issue on their chromebooks, I point them back to the school's IT guy. Trying to instill the "this thing belongs to the school, therefore any issues with it are the school's problem" mindset. I'm not rude about it, just very frank.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago

    I guess I won't be visiting those shitty websites then. fuck off, google.

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    Seems poorly thought through. Some chump with Photoshop and a text editor could replicate this but change the QR code to a malware site in minutes.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Is this just bullshit? What if the visitor has an iPhone? Or a Huawei? I don't think a website is going to force Google on all visitors

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I think iPhones already have Play Services with Chrome, but I could be wrong

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    iPhones have been doing this for a while. It's enabled by default but as far as we know is privacy preserving

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    GrapheneOS lets you install Google Play Services locked inside a sandbox inside a separate profile, which might work?

    The whole system is designed around identifying you as an individual (and until now about making you as miserable as possible until you gave up), so I'm not sure how happy Google would be if you tried that.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, but then you are tracked on each website and service by google. Entirely against the point of having a google free or sandboxed device.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think having a separate profile for just Captcha verification through Play would be more akin to having a separate phone for the purpose. Provided you only used that separate profile for the single purpose, then closed it

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

    But they won't be de-googled. I assume Google has some sort of Trojan software that remains permanently in the background that users can't see.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Untrue. Motorola with GrapheneOS will still be degoogled. No clue where your idea comes from. Motorola is not even Google anymore.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    I think they’re saying that the Motorola phones will have never had google, so they can’t have the sleeper trigger google leaves behind when it has been removed from a phone. I don’t know if the Motorola phones will have the google app store or any other google apps preinstalled, though.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    I don't really understand. Motorola phones have and will come with Google play. There will just be official support for GOS. That could mean two things: you have to flash it yourself or you could get it preinstalled. Either way I don't see how the first part changes.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Then that’s cleared up :)

    I didn’t know that they would have the google play store installed, so either I interpreted them wrong or they also didn’t know that.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Why would a mobile site give a QR code to prove you're human?

    I think that would prove you're robot, if anything. I need my phone's camera to scan the QR code, but it's on the screen!

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    I got a QR code like that from google drive today. I was trying to create a new account and it presented me with a QR code to scan with my phone. I didn't try using it on my phone or wanted anything to do with it from my phone. But it wouldn't let me continue if I didn't scan their code

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    I'm willing to bet a million dollars that Google had this shit locked and ready for quite some time.

    Thanks Americans for bringing in this administration. Lina Khan was too horrible to head FTC I guess.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    And users have to abandon all services that force a militarized google/microsoft into their ecosystem.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Gives an opportunity for more privacy-respecting websites to meet the demand.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Unfortunately I have banking apps and the such, but they work with normal browsers as well so I guess I can just do away with most Google things but it is a pain in the ass to deal with.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    Coolcoolcool this will totally not be used for quishing

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Also, how will iOS deal with this?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago*

    Google's documentation suggests it will just work on iOS devices. Maybe you'll need a separate app. Either way, this isn't very reassuring, because it requires you to finance a piece of hardware that's not really under your control (unless Graphene can actually put this crap on lockdown).

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    A screenshot to a tweet. Totally reliable source.

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