▲ 365 ▼ Of course they do (thelemmy.club) submitted 4 months ago by cm0002@mander.xyz to c/privacy@programming.dev 44 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 15 points 4 months ago (11 children) C'mon Motorola, hurry up. permalink fedilink source hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] bonenode@piefed.social 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago (3 children) GrapheneOS lets you install Google Play Services locked inside a sandbox inside a separate profile, which might work? The whole system is designed around identifying you as an individual (and until now about making you as miserable as possible until you gave up), so I'm not sure how happy Google would be if you tried that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) Yes, but then you are tracked on each website and service by google. Entirely against the point of having a google free or sandboxed device. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think having a separate profile for just Captcha verification through Play would be more akin to having a separate phone for the purpose. Provided you only used that separate profile for the single purpose, then closed it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 point 4 months ago Its really going to depend on how many sites use it and how it handles tracking. If its IP address linked, then it just links all profiles on the same phone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children) But they won't be de-googled. I assume Google has some sort of Trojan software that remains permanently in the background that users can't see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 12 points 4 months ago (4 children) Untrue. Motorola with GrapheneOS will still be degoogled. No clue where your idea comes from. Motorola is not even Google anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (3 children) I think they’re saying that the Motorola phones will have never had google, so they can’t have the sleeper trigger google leaves behind when it has been removed from a phone. I don’t know if the Motorola phones will have the google app store or any other google apps preinstalled, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) I don't really understand. Motorola phones have and will come with Google play. There will just be official support for GOS. That could mean two things: you have to flash it yourself or you could get it preinstalled. Either way I don't see how the first part changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Then that’s cleared up :) I didn’t know that they would have the google play store installed, so either I interpreted them wrong or they also didn’t know that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago Ah well I wouldn't assume every Motorola from now on comes with GOS. And if you have the option then it'd be lacking the play store by default of course. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] bonenode@piefed.social 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago (3 children) GrapheneOS lets you install Google Play Services locked inside a sandbox inside a separate profile, which might work? The whole system is designed around identifying you as an individual (and until now about making you as miserable as possible until you gave up), so I'm not sure how happy Google would be if you tried that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) Yes, but then you are tracked on each website and service by google. Entirely against the point of having a google free or sandboxed device. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think having a separate profile for just Captcha verification through Play would be more akin to having a separate phone for the purpose. Provided you only used that separate profile for the single purpose, then closed it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 point 4 months ago Its really going to depend on how many sites use it and how it handles tracking. If its IP address linked, then it just links all profiles on the same phone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children) But they won't be de-googled. I assume Google has some sort of Trojan software that remains permanently in the background that users can't see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 12 points 4 months ago (4 children) Untrue. Motorola with GrapheneOS will still be degoogled. No clue where your idea comes from. Motorola is not even Google anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (3 children) I think they’re saying that the Motorola phones will have never had google, so they can’t have the sleeper trigger google leaves behind when it has been removed from a phone. I don’t know if the Motorola phones will have the google app store or any other google apps preinstalled, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) I don't really understand. Motorola phones have and will come with Google play. There will just be official support for GOS. That could mean two things: you have to flash it yourself or you could get it preinstalled. Either way I don't see how the first part changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Then that’s cleared up :) I didn’t know that they would have the google play store installed, so either I interpreted them wrong or they also didn’t know that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago Ah well I wouldn't assume every Motorola from now on comes with GOS. And if you have the option then it'd be lacking the play store by default of course. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago (3 children) GrapheneOS lets you install Google Play Services locked inside a sandbox inside a separate profile, which might work? The whole system is designed around identifying you as an individual (and until now about making you as miserable as possible until you gave up), so I'm not sure how happy Google would be if you tried that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) Yes, but then you are tracked on each website and service by google. Entirely against the point of having a google free or sandboxed device. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think having a separate profile for just Captcha verification through Play would be more akin to having a separate phone for the purpose. Provided you only used that separate profile for the single purpose, then closed it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 point 4 months ago Its really going to depend on how many sites use it and how it handles tracking. If its IP address linked, then it just links all profiles on the same phone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) Yes, but then you are tracked on each website and service by google. Entirely against the point of having a google free or sandboxed device. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think having a separate profile for just Captcha verification through Play would be more akin to having a separate phone for the purpose. Provided you only used that separate profile for the single purpose, then closed it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 point 4 months ago Its really going to depend on how many sites use it and how it handles tracking. If its IP address linked, then it just links all profiles on the same phone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think having a separate profile for just Captcha verification through Play would be more akin to having a separate phone for the purpose. Provided you only used that separate profile for the single purpose, then closed it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 point 4 months ago Its really going to depend on how many sites use it and how it handles tracking. If its IP address linked, then it just links all profiles on the same phone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 point 4 months ago Its really going to depend on how many sites use it and how it handles tracking. If its IP address linked, then it just links all profiles on the same phone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children) But they won't be de-googled. I assume Google has some sort of Trojan software that remains permanently in the background that users can't see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 12 points 4 months ago (4 children) Untrue. Motorola with GrapheneOS will still be degoogled. No clue where your idea comes from. Motorola is not even Google anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (3 children) I think they’re saying that the Motorola phones will have never had google, so they can’t have the sleeper trigger google leaves behind when it has been removed from a phone. I don’t know if the Motorola phones will have the google app store or any other google apps preinstalled, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) I don't really understand. Motorola phones have and will come with Google play. There will just be official support for GOS. That could mean two things: you have to flash it yourself or you could get it preinstalled. Either way I don't see how the first part changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Then that’s cleared up :) I didn’t know that they would have the google play store installed, so either I interpreted them wrong or they also didn’t know that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago Ah well I wouldn't assume every Motorola from now on comes with GOS. And if you have the option then it'd be lacking the play store by default of course. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 12 points 4 months ago (4 children) Untrue. Motorola with GrapheneOS will still be degoogled. No clue where your idea comes from. Motorola is not even Google anymore. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (3 children) I think they’re saying that the Motorola phones will have never had google, so they can’t have the sleeper trigger google leaves behind when it has been removed from a phone. I don’t know if the Motorola phones will have the google app store or any other google apps preinstalled, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) I don't really understand. Motorola phones have and will come with Google play. There will just be official support for GOS. That could mean two things: you have to flash it yourself or you could get it preinstalled. Either way I don't see how the first part changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Then that’s cleared up :) I didn’t know that they would have the google play store installed, so either I interpreted them wrong or they also didn’t know that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago Ah well I wouldn't assume every Motorola from now on comes with GOS. And if you have the option then it'd be lacking the play store by default of course. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (3 children) I think they’re saying that the Motorola phones will have never had google, so they can’t have the sleeper trigger google leaves behind when it has been removed from a phone. I don’t know if the Motorola phones will have the google app store or any other google apps preinstalled, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) I don't really understand. Motorola phones have and will come with Google play. There will just be official support for GOS. That could mean two things: you have to flash it yourself or you could get it preinstalled. Either way I don't see how the first part changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Then that’s cleared up :) I didn’t know that they would have the google play store installed, so either I interpreted them wrong or they also didn’t know that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago Ah well I wouldn't assume every Motorola from now on comes with GOS. And if you have the option then it'd be lacking the play store by default of course. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) I don't really understand. Motorola phones have and will come with Google play. There will just be official support for GOS. That could mean two things: you have to flash it yourself or you could get it preinstalled. Either way I don't see how the first part changes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Then that’s cleared up :) I didn’t know that they would have the google play store installed, so either I interpreted them wrong or they also didn’t know that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago Ah well I wouldn't assume every Motorola from now on comes with GOS. And if you have the option then it'd be lacking the play store by default of course. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Then that’s cleared up :) I didn’t know that they would have the google play store installed, so either I interpreted them wrong or they also didn’t know that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago Ah well I wouldn't assume every Motorola from now on comes with GOS. And if you have the option then it'd be lacking the play store by default of course. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago Ah well I wouldn't assume every Motorola from now on comes with GOS. And if you have the option then it'd be lacking the play store by default of course. permalink fedilink source parent
