Yeah and in Holland they've just killed the old reasonable pension system and replaced it with a similar 401(K) type thing 😢

Just think what Bush's privatization was. They tried to borrow, tens of trillions, to pump into a stock market they knew was on the brink of collapse, and force people to use money managers that get paid regardless of their clients' fortunes.

Gains would only be recognized for 8%, the rest kicked back in the pot, losses would be 100%. It was such a shit system, on top of trying to foist all of this have to invest money into a market to allow the rich to sell off on a high note and leave workers holding the bag, to die in the street with stolen retirement.

It's okay. They'll probably steal whatever you put in it anyway. Imagine if the Trumps make a big stock move and then had everyone's "Trump account" cover the bet at a tidy profit.

Trump has tainted this entire country with this stank. The businesses paying him off. The people licking his crack. The politicians giving him cover. Fuck all of them. Forever.

There is a tiny bit of irony in that this is exactly what many rural voters said about Obamacare. One difference (of many) being that they have been dying because of that choice.

There's a cult growing in wallstreetbets.

When I did my taxes this year it asked if I wanted to open a Trump Account for my kid, so that it would receive any future deposits the government gave out.

It was so disturbing and disgusting to see something that gross in writing in a real-world context.

No fucking thanks.

Haven’t they always wanted this? “Trump accounts” is just branding for what they’ve been calling for for decades.

He was never one to hold his tongue.

He’s running for president and trying to improve his image.

Literally stealing tax dollars and using the presidency to make money with his entire family tied into it.

Absolute scum

Social security is not an investment at all. It's young people giving money to old people.

For a while, the country didn't have very many old people, so some of the young-people tax went into the general budget (through purchase of US Treasury bills). Now there's too many old people, and you can bet that the general budget won't be giving them anything.

It's more like insurance. Some people won't need it much, others will. It can be beneficial to those.

But the real thing you are 'buying' is peace of mind. That is part of the value of it.

No need to fight Cruz for the last scrap of rat liver. You've got a whole pig right there.

Pffft. You eat rats whole, slide the down the mouth.

something their children and their grandchildren will take as a warning.

A warning? Like this?