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[-] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 51 points 2 weeks ago

Quelle surprise. Our media is mostly owned by American billionaire interests.

[-] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 weeks ago

I would be ok with us ownership of Canadian News sites to be illegal.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago

How about any foreign ownership of news outlets? Make news a protected item, and journalism a protected job

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

America made Rupert Murdoch give up Australian citizenship to own a major media network in America.

[-] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

Damn if only a Majority Liberal government could do something about what Harper caused.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago

I hold white supremacist ideology in the same contempt as I do Canada becoming a 51st state. Why is all the bad stuff learned from our cultural link with the usa? Why is there a percentage of us who adopt it? Media. Let's start countering the hate messages with love and support. There are a lot of citizens in free-fall and disconnected from the political/economical world at large, and more of them everyday. Canadian media should work for the citizenry, not shaping policy for billionaire overlords like in our culturally linked neighbour down south.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

LMAO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_genocide_of_Indigenous_peoples

wHy iS aLL tHE bAD sTUff cOMiNg FrOm AmeriCa

Probably because arrogant twats refuse to reckon with and address the inherent sins of any colonizer state.

It's always so much easier to blame foreigners after all.

[-] architect 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What the fuck are they teaching you fucking Canadians? White supremacy is everywhere white people are. Your country never needed help being fucking racist! You already were genocidal racist maniacs!

[-] HeroicBillyBishop@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago
[-] HeroicBillyBishop@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

all the little fight club boyfriends are growing up and getting real jobs, micro penis derangement syndrome must be crippling

The yankee funded racist propaganda wont work here, but the bad actors will pour a lot of money into it until they get distracted by killing each other

Stay strong hosers

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 weeks ago

The yankee funded racist propaganda wont work here

It does though. The trucker convoy demographic has only become louder and more belligerent since trump was re-elected. I work with a lot of construction contractors and they are almost uniformly of the "Fuck Trudeau", pickup truck, Alberta ostrich conspiracy, variety.

[-] HeroicBillyBishop@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

...well works to an extent

I have met some of those same people, and fortunately for all of us, they are small vocal minority

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

they are small vocal minority

The problem people often are.

But their disproportionately noisy message also manages to get itself heard far more than it deserves, which allows it to be more influential than it deserves to be.

[-] HeroicBillyBishop@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

I agree completely, hence I confront and discuss it with them every opportunity I get

The vast majority of them are just gullible morons Some are willing assholes

We, as good Canadians, need to stand up to them, despite any fear, as Canada is worth it

[-] architect 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Mmmhmm heard it all before. So you’re like ten years behind the usa fascist takeover. You’re saying the same shit we were ten years ago.

[-] HeroicBillyBishop@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

yes, except the clock on you guys killing each other en masse keeps ticking closer and closer

best of luck in your civil war

[-] architect 4 points 2 weeks ago

MAGA is also a small vocal minority.

Literally it’s exactly what my fellow Americans were saying in 2015.

You’re going to get fucked, even worse if you think you’re immune.

[-] HeroicBillyBishop@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

I do not think I am immune and confront seditious shitheads at every opportunity -including on this platform

Canada will not get fukt, america will turn on itself first

you guys hate each other, we like each other

I wish you the best of luck

[-] SamuelRJankis@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

The Camp of the Saints was written by the French author Jean Raspail in 1973. Celestini describes it as a dystopian novel about a caravan of immigrants coming to Europe by boat from an unspecified South Asian country.

The migrants are depicted in an unambiguously racist way: as rapists, as people who sell their children for money and do other degrading acts and as a threat to European society.

...

The book has been referenced by Stephen Miller, the architect of the Trump administration’s brutal attempt to increase deportations and imprisonment of immigrants in U.S. cities. Steve Bannon, a former strategist for U.S. President Donald Trump, has also talked about the book.

The National Post’s review of the book acknowledges that the novel is “generally considered a racist book towards Indians.” But the bulk of the piece is devoted to arguing the book’s ideas and warnings about “third-world migration” have merit and should be more widely read.

[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

"Entering"

Canadians genocided their indigenous populations in the same way the Yanks did, this isn't new

[-] Nagrom@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

That’s why I get all my news from facebook /s

[-] orioler25@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Lmao, oh, are they? Wow, I mean, at least the totally-not-white-supremacist-genocidal-settler-state Canada made it all the way to 2026 without white supremacy entering its media and politics.

[-] HeroicBillyBishop@lemmy.ca -4 points 2 weeks ago
[-] orioler25@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

That'd be correct

[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Y'know what's not nice? Colonizing other people's land ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[-] HeroicBillyBishop@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

right? But we cant change the past

Canadians have become aware of our colonial past and are working to correct it with Indigenous Canadians

[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Don't get me wrong, that's great! But how extensive is that work, when it comes to truly writing the wrongs of settler-Colonialism? That's a really big traumatic scar that impacts every area of a country's political life and institutions. Pointing that fact out, instead of treating Canadian white supremacy as somehow "new", isn't just some rude bummer of a take.

[-] HeroicBillyBishop@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago

We need to help our Indigenous communities regain their pride and culture, while also collectively embracing a shared Canadian identity

starting with ensuring clean drinking water, access to quality education and health care services and a joint recognition of our shared pasts and futures

[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

That's all very cool, do you have any info on initiatives doing this work in Canada, that I could read?

[-] HeroicBillyBishop@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago

no, but your search algorithm of choice will

[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

Nah man, telling me to do the leg work for you sucks actually.

You said:

Canadians have become aware of our colonial past and are working to correct it with Indigenous Canadians

Great! Show me! Back that up!

[-] HeroicBillyBishop@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago

no shill, you are discussing this in bad faith

get fukt

[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

Buddy...asking you to back up you're claim isn't bad faith. Are you fucking stupid?

I genuinely want to know about the things you're claiming, and you won't pony up the information. I'm not the one acting in bad faith. I responded to you, and pressed you, because you called another poster, who rightfully pointed out Canada's status as a settler colony, "not nice". If anything, trivializing the problem of Colonialism like that is what's bad faith here.

[-] bluejade@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

We're easy marks, we grow up with no real identity to be proud of, no real connection to a canonical past, very little in common with our white neighbours. It's very easy to make us blame tall women or ethnic and racial minorities for our problems, people who don't line up with the fairy tale we're told. We elect the folksy white guy who is looking out for himself and his rich friends, and when we can't find a home we can afford or have to wait 4 hours in the ER, when we aren't the center of the world, it's easy to blame someone near us but superficially different, who we probably don't even talk to because we are looking at screens 20 hours a day.

but we're all in the same meat grinder together, except for the people turning the crank

[-] wampus@lemmy.ca -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'd add a bit to that -- in that many older millennial white guys, also encountered things like workplaces/governments that overtly said "We can't hire you because you aren't a member of an equity employment group" (eg. a woman, a non-white person, a lgbtq+ person, or a FN person). I personally heard that from the fed govt and a couple potential employers around 2005. We encountered that sort of systemic racism in our lifetimes, something that most other demos have had legal protections against for generations now. People we grew up with, went through the whole education system with, didn't face those hurdles even though they had functionally the same background - or, in many cases, more privileged backgrounds as many asians/non-whites have a good bit of wealth that's transferred in to the country. Those people then often preached to us about our privilege, and how we should accept our diminished role, let everyone else speak first, etc etc... Universities are one area where this sort of thing shows up in spades, where the liberal arts basically ostracized white guys / shoved them to the fringe.

There are news stories about FN people who've quite literally stabbed/killed a white-guy stranger in an elevator, fleeing the scene after... and the FN person gets off with no jail time because of "historic wrongs done to the FN peoples", basically we have a race-based justice system which is absolutely not blind/impartial. And that racist system was established/re-enforced by our first FN AG, Jodie Wilson-Raybould, who also triggered the revolving door of our prisons with her bail reforms -- which were enacted, essentially, to try and get racial equity in terms of who's locked up, objective concepts of justice be damned. And there are lesser examples, more mundane but equally racist in scope, of things like FN status holders getting discounted rates at things like FN gas stations -- white people had 'systemic privilege' in the past, but FN people get to pay $0.15 less at the pump due to how systems are setup today. Or we see cases like the Cowichan band's toxic dump situation, where the FN put out this 'image' of being some sort of noble custodians of nature, demanding that the evil white colonial system give them power / authority.... but when one of their own people sets up an illegal toxic dump site on Cowichan lands, it's on the public tax payers to clean it up.

It's fairly easy / common to see these sorts of stories, where white guys/people are expected to accept poor treatment as individuals, because of a justification that 'white people did bad stuff' historically. Ignoring/ridiculing the real/tangible 'personal' life experiences of today's white middle-aged people, is basically a gateway to radicalization for that demo and younger white guys. Expressing/commenting on those sorts of experiences in mixed company/public, generally just gets you even more scorn. White nationalists are more willing to listen to those sorts of grievances, and then declare extreme actions the only way to effect change. In some ways, it's structured very similar to social movements from more militant/aggressive minority groups historically -- like the FLQ in Quebec, not getting heard by the Govt, turning to violence during Trudeau Sr's term. Or even less violent, but equally ignored groups who also had legitimate, but neglected, issues -- like the women's rights movements. If we turn a blind eye to the potentially legitimate concerns of a demo, it isn't too surprising that they become increasingly radicalized.

this post was submitted on 07 May 2026
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