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[-] FatTony@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

From that title, you really gotta wonder. Why did they not capitalise the 'to'? Why leave that one out particularly??

[-] nickiwest@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Some style guides recommend not capitalizing prepositions unless they have at least four letters.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 28 points 23 hours ago

wow, rare win for Chinese workers.

[-] ledasll@lemmy.wtf 2 points 8 hours ago

I don't think it's for workers rights. Of course there is part of civil unrest, that might happen if million of people are ot of work. But also power is more consolidated in fewer people, so it would be more danger in long run (for Xi of course)

[-] weew@lemmy.ca 13 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I think in terms of workers rights, China is rapidly coming up to the West in the 50s. There's a massive growth in middle class as well as white collar jobs, especially in tech and engineering.

This has put pressure on society as a whole for much higher standards of living, and thus better wages and better rights. They are no longer the cheap ass labor country, that's being exported to Africa and such.

Although the 996 culture is still insane, but I think that partly comes from the extreme competitive environment in the tech sector. There were similar stories years ago in the video game industry, and that probably hasn't changed much.

[-] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 hours ago

A couple of million Uyghurs would like a word.

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 0 points 49 minutes ago

Please, everything you know about the Uyghur was manufactured by Zionist media with the "data" of literal cofounder of Victims of Communism Memorial Association and rabid Christian conservative "Adrian Zenz".

It's beyond me why after seeing the literal entire western media establishment manufacturing consent for a genocide that we've seen televised in our own phones for the first time thanks to Chinese social media such as TikTok, people are still willing to take these same media's claims at face value when it comes to the human rights of peoples in geopolitically tense regions of the world.

[-] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 0 points 26 minutes ago

So in your world, are the Jews responsible for everything? Is the UN now Zionist media?

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 13 minutes ago

Conflating Zionism with Judaism is extremely antisemitic, thankfully many Jews are not rabid genociders like Zionists, certainly most I interact with aren't.

Whenever you pretend to be 1% as concerned about Roma people in Europe or black people in the US as you concern-troll for Uyghurs, you'll be taken seriously.

[-] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 minutes ago

What does any of that have to do with China's mistreatment of the Uyghurs?

[-] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago

Too bad people can’t jump backwards into windows that looked once downward toward the ground.

[-] mabeledo@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

This assumes that people can generally be replaced by AI, which is not true.

AI is an excuse to fire people, and a powerful marketing tool to make a company look better to investors, but it has not had the massive impact techbros want us to believe it has.

Shame, because like everything, it could genuinely be helpful, and instead, we’ve mostly got a bunch of applications no one asked for, and a constant bombardment of dreadful predictions that make regular people go mad.

[-] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

In practice, I've heard of companies using AI to "replace" large groups of people, then higher back a few of them with expanded responsibilities and worse pay.

So, they are using it to replace workers, just not in the neat sci-fi sense.

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[-] someone@lemmy.today 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are so many speech restrictions and humans rights violations in China that scare the hell out of me, but then I see rulings like this and their progress on robotics and tech and I think "Well, they are doing something right..." I hope one day there is more free speech for people in China who deserve to be able to say what they want.

It's a great ruling because companies that would normally favor efficiency and profit increases are in a better position to take these existing workers and utilize them in different ways than just have everyone fired en masse and then somehow the market will sort it out. Even under classical economic theories, governments are supposed to regulate externalities and AI displacing workers too rapidly could be considered a type of externality.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

There are so many speech restrictions and humans rights violations in China that scare the hell out of me

I hear an earful about how horrible and repressive the Chinese state government is to its citizens from the outside, largely by national media talking heads and Big Data surveillance company flaks. Meanwhile, the consequences of talking shit on the Chinese internet - account suspension/deactivation, getting in trouble with your employer/school possibly with the threat of firing/expulsion, periodic investigation by state police for threats of violence, possible restrictions on business/travel because you've been added to a "watch list", potential for arrest on some bullshit charge - seem to be all the same kinds of consequences periodically doled out to western citizens.

I'm told Americans have "free speech". But then the Supreme Court lays so many caveats down that even a silly toothless joke is strictly prohibited under US laws. I'm told Chinese officials are brutal and draconian and mean-spirited, but they don't have anything approaching our prison population. I haven't seen evidence of any kind of mob-rule social media gang dedicated to doxing Chinese dissidents, either. So they manage to stay ahead of Canary Mission and Project Veritas in that regard.

I hope one day there is more free speech for people in China who deserve to be able to say what they want.

I want to know what that's supposed to look like in practice. Where can I find the Free Speech that the Evil Foreign Country is supposed to one day get?

Because if the dream is an American style system of free expression... What are we pinning for, really? Chinese Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson? Uyghurs given the Palestine Action treatment? An independent Taiwan that enjoys all the diplomatic kindness we afford to our neighbors down in Haiti and Cuba?

What are we even asking for?

[-] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Your logic is shit.

Everyone is agreeing with your bashing of the US, which is fine, I agree with that part.

But just because the United States is creating/ allowing internment camps and death camps doesn't mean it's okay for the Chinese to do it to the Uygurs. Just because the US is stupidly throwing our military weight around doesn't make it okay for China to do it, especially not to one of the highest rated democracies in the world.

Is your premise that suppression of minorities and military adventurism is par for the course so there's no use criticizing it?

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 46 minutes ago

But just because the United States is creating/ allowing internment camps and death camps doesn't mean it's okay for the Chinese to do it to the Uygurs

But that's literally made up by the Zionist media apparatus though? Like, you're comparing actually recorded shootings of civilians by the police on the street (USA) with hearsay stories made up by Zionist media.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

But just because the United States is creating/ allowing internment camps and death camps doesn’t mean it’s okay for the Chinese to do it to the Uygurs

China is building schools and factors in Xinjiang, extending their massive rail network into the country, developing new high density urban centers, and - as a consequence - importing a great deal of the neighboring territory language, culture, and economic practices.

The US is defunding education across the Southwest, gutting low-cost public transit, criminalizing the development of property in migrant neighborhoods, and conducting mass arrests of legal residents based on the social media posts of grifters and fanatics.

How are these two policies equivalent?

Is your premise that suppression of minorities and military adventurism is par for the course so there’s no use criticizing it?

On what planet is policing your own sovereign territory against domestic insurgency "military adventurism"?

[-] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 hours ago

How are these two policies equivalent?

I'm arguing against the premise of making the argument based on equating the two countries. The circumstances/ policies don't have to be different or the same to evaluate them.

Also, your assertion of what the Chinese government is doing in Xinjiang might well be true, but what people/ the West take issue with is the rounding up of dissidents, sending them to reeducation camps, and forcibly sterilizing some of them.

On what planet is policing your own sovereign >territory against domestic insurgency “military >adventurism”?

As far as the Chinese government goes, this part refers to taking Taiwan by force. Literally only the Chinese government would refer to Taiwan as their 'sovereign territory'.

[-] rmrf@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 minutes ago

Can you respond to this comment (https://reddthat.com/comment/26414066)? That was the original thread and I'm interested in your response.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I’m arguing against the premise

I'm discussing the actual material facts in these two countries.

I'm listening to someone point to LBJ's Great Society and calling it a Holocaust. You sound like one of those homeschool libertarians, screaming about how truancy laws are unconstitutional.

what people/ the West take issue with is the rounding up of dissidents, sending them to reeducation camps, and forcibly sterilizing some of them

Not when their friends in The Philippines or Israel are doing it. Not when they're doing it to refugees in US prisons or UK detention camps.

What Westerners object to isn't Chinese policing. It's Chinese sovereignty, Chinese technology, and Chinese trade they're freaked out about.

As far as the Chinese government goes, this part refers to taking Taiwan by force.

What blockade are they running against ~~Cuba~~ Taiwan? How many military bases are they squatting on in defiance of the national government? How many times have they attempted to assassinate a ~~Cuban~~ ~~Venezuelan~~ ~~Iranian~~ ~~Afghani~~ Taiwanese head of state?

How many homes have they bulldozed? How many citizens have they butchered? How many fishing boats have double-tapped?

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[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Based China

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