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Science is political. (thelemmy.club)
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[-] jeniferariza@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago

This feels like another recycled playbook: take vulnerable people, create doubt, then sell it as “concern.” People deserve support, not weaponized stigma.

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[-] webkitten@piefed.social 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's funny since if you think you're autistic and it turns out you're not the consequence is literally nothing; your life continues the same as it was before.

Also let's be honest; Christina Buttons is 100% an AI generated character.

[-] BigBrownDog@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

"I thought I was autistic. It turns out I'm retarded."

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 2 days ago
[-] BigBrownDog@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

But you could end up on a Netflix dating show, so that's cool.

Coming this fall. Retarded dating.

[-] BigBrownDog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Holy shit, it actually exists. It's called "Down for Love".

[-] TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id 3 points 1 day ago

I thought it was Love Island.

[-] BigBrownDog@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

SHOTS FIRED

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Science" under capitalism is not just political. It's literally fascist.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 3 days ago

IMHO, in a way, it's the desperate, desperate, oh so desperate need of people who can't deal with the uncertainty of Probability and Statistics and thus require everything to be a clearly defined something, no variance, no deviations.

It's the same reason why some people simply can't accept the Theory Of Evolution: the idea that "countless" (not literally, but figurativelly) random variances will yield incremental changes which over time add up to major change is just beyond them, so better have a single (or a handful) of fantastical all powerful beings of unexplained (and never questioned) provenance be the designers and agents of creation of all we see.

As I see it, shit like this is mainly stupid people compensating (in the Psychology sense of the word) for their own inability to comprehend the World as is and without mentally simplify it down to a handful of little labelled boxes.

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 167 points 3 days ago

Stop making everything political!

The national anthem of people who love the status quo!

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 87 points 3 days ago

The national anthem of people who love the status quo!

Of 40 years ago.

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[-] omgboom@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Well what are their names?

[-] brownsugga@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Yeh this is not doxxing if they are literally attempting to shape national policy. If you want to be left alone you should leave the fucking laws alone

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 10 points 2 days ago

They are a clear and present danger to people and must not be spared criticism and shaming for their actions.

[-] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

They are a clear and present danger to people and must not be spared ~~criticism and shaming for their actions~~.

[-] bob@feddit.uk 16 points 2 days ago
[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

It's probably also AI generated if I'd have to venture a guess

[-] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 88 points 3 days ago

I managed to get past the paywall on the article somehow, so here's the actually important stuff:

But for a community organized around social impairment, they maintained an astonishing number of social rules. Certain language and beliefs were treated as harmful, and activists policed them aggressively. Terms like high-functioning, low-functioning, severe, and profound were condemned as “ableist.” Again and again, I watched popular accounts direct their thousands of followers to comment sections so they could scold people for using the wrong language or expressing the wrong views about autism.

AKA "muh free speech"

Activists reserved particular contempt for anyone who upheld the medical understanding of autism spectrum disorder, targeting organizations, researchers, and universities that treated autism as a disorder and supported work on its causes, treatment, or cure. They compared that work to eugenics and tried to shut it down through petitions, harassment, and public pressure. Too often, they succeeded.

"We should 'fix' autistic people, why doesn't everyone agree with me???? 😢"

when I began referring to myself with the term Asperger,

The response was fierce. Activists rejected the idea that there was any sort of hierarchy in the autism spectrum.

"Why don't people like it when I use an outdated term, removed from the DSM-5, that is often used to imply low intelligence of autistic people and want me to use the more broadly accepted inclusive term instead????"

Then, my life changed. In 2022, after working for several years as an artist, I became a journalist. The career shift was spurred by my discovering the stories of detransitioners: mainly young women who had once identified as transgender and now no longer did, and whose experiences were largely ignored by mainstream media. I could relate to them; many of them, like me, had struggled deeply as teenagers and searched for a label that seemed to explain their suffering. As I learned more about their experiences, I was forced to think more critically about how activism and media shape cultural narratives around identity and diagnosis, and how perverse social incentives can lock those narratives into place.

"I saw people detransition and that means that means autism can be a social contagion and because I see it as debilitating I want a reason to believe I'm faking it"

I soon began taking on stories that required heavy reporting. As I spoke with sources, built rapport, asked sensitive questions, and earned their trust, I realized something that should have been obvious much earlier: I do not have a social communication deficit. Not only was I competent at socializing, I was good at it, and I improved the more I did it.

"I'm good at socializing therefore I don't have autism"

Which forced me to ask: What else could have explained my social discomfort? In retrospect, the answer was more ordinary than I wanted it to be. I was a sensitive, introverted child who felt social mistakes intensely. Instead of responding to them by becoming more resilient, I chose to retreat into my interests, because they felt safer than people. Over time, that withdrawal hardened into a pattern.

"Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" but applied to emotions. If she'd just responded better to mistakes, she'd never have been diagnosted as autistic, guys!

My diagnosis unraveled further once I started questioning the other traits I had come to see as autistic. Introversion, high sensory sensitivity, intense interests, and social camouflaging are not exclusively the features of an autist; they are widely distributed across the general population. But using the female autism framework, I came to see them as a meaningful pattern.

"I have a ton of heavily correlated traits that are all often linked to autism, but if I look at them individually instead of recognizing the actual pattern, and say that non autistic people can have them too, that means I'm 'normal!'"

This happened very swiftly, partially because an autism diagnosis is not especially difficult to obtain. The process, which has no objective medical test and relies primarily on self-reported traits interpreted by individual clinicians, leaves enormous room for confirmation bias and error. My own evaluation did not consider alternative explanations for my experiences, only that they had been present since childhood.

"We can't do a DNA test for autism, therefore doctors must be just guessing and patients must be making it up"

Research shows that more and more people, especially young women, are over-identifying with psychiatric diagnoses, desperate for some sort of label to explain their struggles or abnormalities.

"More people are self-diagnosing, therefore trained medical professionals using actual diagnostic methods will also be diagnosing a ton of people with autism that don't have it"

Losing the autism label allowed me to regain something more valuable than certainty: agency. My difficulties did not disappear, but they no longer defined the limits of who I could become. There is comfort in a story that shifts responsibility away from the self. Sometimes that comfort is almost irresistible. But in the end, it is better to believe in the possibility of change than to embrace a narrative that says you never had a choice at all.

"If you think you're autistic, you'll assume you have innate limits and stop trying hard enough." AKA "Autism stops you from reaching your full potential and is a crutch"

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Oh yikes, she sounds just awful

[-] lifeinlarkhall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It's all bollocks. I'm autistic. I was misdiagnosed as bipolar for 15 years including psychosis and sedated heavily for 15 years. THAT has had a major ongoing impact on my life. But there's no "wave" of people who come out about being misdiagnosed as bipolar...or borderline personality disorder - both of which are common misdiagnoses for late diagnosed autistic people.

There's a comfort in knowing who you are and being able to look after yourself and play to your strengths.

Anyone, with any diagnosis or not, can find a "reason" or "excuse" to not try or to be a shit person. That's not exclusive to literally any demographic or diagnosis. Lazy people exist, bad people exist, etc. autistic, non autistic, man, woman, young, old, mental illness, whatever isn't the thing that makes a person lazy, good, bad, etc.

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[-] canniest_tod@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago
[-] enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 days ago

abigail (the person below, philosophy tube on nebula & youtube). did so on her video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S5w18sjYLk

so many companies/entities mentioned are headed/linked to the same bunch of people. I watched it few weeks ago, sorry couldn't specify the timestamp. but also heads up, 2 hours video.

[-] egerlach@lemmy.ca 104 points 3 days ago

The worst part about the article (see comment for source) is that in a sense, the author isn't wrong. Developing skills helps with challenges, whether they are caused by a neurodivergency or not. Also, labels can limit people and people can hold themselves back because of seeing their condition as innate and not changeable (which it is, but everything around it can change). I don't doubt that her autism diagnosis was not useful for her and she feels better letting it go. And there are very toxic elements in the neurodiversity community, just like in other communities.

The problem is that none of the above actually invalidates the diagnosis. It's all context in which the life of the person with the diagnosis plays out. So she may very well still be autistic by any reasonable definition. I don't know her. And the attitude which this kind of article permits others to take can be scary.

ADHD Sidebar Rant(This doesn't get into my big issue with a large swath of the DSM, which calls a bucket of symptoms a diagnosis without any understanding of underlying causes. With other medical fields we've often found that there are multiple diseases underlying the population of patients with a cluster of symptoms (e.g. recent discovery of multiple variants of Parkinsons with different origins). I personally suspect that there are multiple distinct conditions that underpin what we currently bucket as "autism", and same with many of the other conditions in that section of the DSM. The only one we understand even reasonably well is ADHD, AFAICT. We at least have brain differences and some genetic components mapped out, but we're still learning more all the time, e.g. recent study which suggests primary mode of operation of the condition is reward, not attention, which is why stimulants work.)

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[-] julianwgs@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 3 days ago

Isn‘t autism and many other psychological conditions under and over diagnosed at the same time? A friend of mine got her diagnosis at the age of 31 (under diagnosed) and her doctor talked with her about social media bringing more people to her, which think they have autism, but don‘t (over diagnosing).

I don‘t want to talk anyone out of their diagnosis or give them doubts. As long as there are tests there will always be false negatives and positives and so if you test more it will influence the outcome.

PS: The article is probably bullshit.

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 26 points 2 days ago

What you're describing isn't really an over-diagnosis thing though, it's more that visibility has increased and the stigma has been reduced, so more people go to a professional to have it investigated.

Over-diagnosis would be people who actually get diagnosed with autism but end up not having it.

I think the criteria and diagnosis evolving as the science gets better also has an impact. The idea that only young boys have autism was the prevalent one not that long ago, but we know better now so now more people are being diagnosed with it since we understand it better.

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[-] Alloi@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago

Autism (neuro divergence in general really) under capitalism, is the engineering equivilent to being a sacrificial gear in a gear box. You have your purpose, you do it well when placed in the proper gear set. But you wear out faster than all the other gears, not because you are a bad gear, but because the system itself was designed to crush you rather than crush the bigger more expensive gears. It was built for their longevity and success, not yours. This is them giving the squeeky wheel or "gear" "the grease" in a fucked up way.

They are trying to gaslight different groups into thinking they are just a regular normal gear, and they need to just work harder, even if it means the gear breaks quicker as a result. We are cheaper to replace than we are to repair, and that is the logic that makes capitalism unworthy of human participation, it is inherently anti human in all spectrums.

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