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I would like to know what communist tendency you follow, why you follow it and who best represents your tendency of communism weather it be a modern day country like China or a country like the USSR?

The answer to this question myself is that I am a Marxist-Leninist. I follow Marxism Leninism because it gives power to the working class rather than the bourgeois and aims for a classless money less society this is achieved through following Marxist Leninist theory and analyzing the conditions in the country you are trying to achieve Marxism-Leninism in. Those who best represent Marxism Leninism for me are Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Hoxha.

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[-] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 4 days ago

I follow Marxism-Lesbianism because women are hot.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 4 days ago

A Marxist-Leninist here as well. In my view, dialectical materialism is the best tool we have for understanding the world and social relations.

[-] Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 4 days ago

I am a Marxist-Leninist, because Marxism-Leninism has proven itself in theory and in practice. I don't think it makes much sense to see which country "best represents Marxism-Leninism," and instead makes more sense to see what countries use Marxism-Leninism in struggling against imperialism, settler-colonialism, and neocolonialism, and in establishing and building socialism, as well as how Marxism-Leninism helps them.

[-] nocturnedragonite@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 4 days ago

ML, because it's the only thing that's worked

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I think most of us here are Marxist-Leninists. The reason for me at least is fairly simple: it's the most scientific (in the sense that it looks at the world through a materialist lens and analyses it rationally, systematically and holistically) and it demonstrably works when used to guide revolutionary practice.

The second part is particularly important because if your ideology doesn't work in the real world then what good is it? I'm paraphrasing here, but: "The point isn't just to analyze the world, it's to change it." Only Marxism-Leninism has managed to produce successful revolutions that create stable socialist societies which have improved the level of human well-being beyond what any capitalist system would be capable of doing in the same circumstances.

Marxism-Leninism is also flexible enough to adapt to changing circumstances and to incorporate a newer and better understanding of how the world works. Dogmatism is the death of science. I find that China has some great phrases that express the scientific approach to socialism, such as: "Crossing the river by feeling the stones" and "Seeking truth from facts". We observe the world as it is to form theories, proceed forward through trial and error, adopt what works and discard what doesn't.

This also means we should be open to learning from many different sources, so we should not attach ourselves to one particular person or country (though obviously some have been objectively more successful than others, and we should study why that is and learn how we can replicate their successes and avoid their mistakes).

[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 5 days ago

One could argue that Juche has worked, but I would honestly need to research more about it to determine if it is its own distinct philosophy or if it is Marxism-Leninism in Korean material conditions (I would also need to determine how much Juche influenced their survival against American imperialism). Other lines are not so lucky: Maoism claims no currently-existing socialist countries, orthodox Marxism claims literally nothing (except the Paris Commune, I guess), and other niche camps are hardly worth talking about.

I agree with cfgaussian in their assessment of Marxism-Leninism: It is the most scientific communist tendency based on observable results (the currently-existing socialist countries and past ones show that it can succeed and has succeeded) and the theoretical strength (meaning how much it is able to answer questions regarding the word and combat criticism). I am a Marxist-Leninist not simply because it is the only road I see to creating a better life for all people, but also because it answers questions in a way that liberal and social-opportunist ideologies fail to answer scientifically (seriously, authoritarianism and totalitarianism are seldom used in consistent ways and are often so vague and mired in idealist understandings of politics that they hardly amount to anything more than pseudoscience posturing as science).

Supporting the USSR and modern PRC is not contradictory to me; they both count as socialist experiments enabling the worker's liberation movement to better understand what mistakes to avoid and how we can succeed as a socialist society. I do not think that the market reforms in China were a betrayal of socialism, and I think the PRC is the greatest ally to socialism that we currently have (in terms of influence). I would also say that the PRC's survival into the current day (as a socialist country, not a capitalist one like ultras would like you to believe) shows that the way of the PRC is the one we should look towards for inspiration in constructing a socialist country (though I am not well-informed on the economy of Stalin-era socialism, so I have to look into that to say whether or not I would be on board with it).

However, I am a bit weirded out by your mention of Hoxha. Could you explain why you include Hoxha there (and not Marx or Engels)? From my experience, only Hoxhaists bother upholding Hoxha.

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 5 days ago

I admit that i am not very knowledgeable on the topic of Juche, but from what i can tell it seems like an adaptation of Marxism-Leninism to the specific conditions of the DPRK post Korean War. An ideology doesn't need to be called Marxism-Leninism (or even mention Marx and Lenin) to be essentially Marxist-Leninist in its world outlook. Another good name for Juche might be "Socialism with Korean Characteristics".

[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 days ago

I do wonder why Jucheists emphasize the fact that it is its own ideology (though they admit it is a sister ideology to Marxism-Leninism, I think). The focus and wordage used is definitely different, but eh, I do not know. Thanks for the recommendation, by the way.

[-] Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 days ago

Juche socialists believe the juche idea to be a universal advancement on Marxism-Leninism, even if they accept Marxism-Leninism as correct.

[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 days ago

So would it be like Maoists viewing Mao's contributions as a universal advancement of Marxism-Leninism (they are not)? I guess it might differ if Jucheists actually think Marxism-Leninism is outdated or not. Any Jucheists here to state their opinion?

[-] Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 days ago

Kind of. One key difference is that juche socialists tend to support other AES just like Marxist-Leninists, while Maoists tend not to.

[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 days ago

I feel like Jucheists are primarily relegated to the DPRK and some small online places. Oh, I knew that Maoists denounce AES countries, but my understanding of their stance on AES was unclear until you answered (honestly, I am somewhat surprised they support other AES countries outside of the DPRK).

[-] Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Maoists usually don't support modern AES, though some of the Sison school do. As for Juche, it's also because Juche doesn't add anything to Marxism-Leninism that stands against AES.

[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 days ago

... the fact that those Maoists are supporting modern AES makes no sense to me (why do they do that)?

I guess that aspect of Juche makes sense...

[-] Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 4 days ago

For the same reasons some Trotskyist orgs wrap back around to supporting AES, like WWP.

[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 days ago

And why is that? Are they like the people who like the "authoritarian Stalin" unironically (I bet there is a non-zero chance some people actually like this nonexistent Stalin) because they think that the object of admiration is as reactionary as them?

[-] Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 days ago

Usually it's when they actually take Lenin's theories of imperialism seriously enough and come around on AES in a roundabout way. They may have initially believed a good deal of the propaganda but Marxism-Leninism is still correct, so they wrap back around to supporting AES.

[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Hmm, you got downvoted twice. Maybe it is because you said something which seems wrong (in comparison to what the general impression of Maoists is), but I will still upvote you for giving a unique perspective into it. However, I would argue that Maoism is revisionism of Marxism-Leninism (from what I remember of the Peruvian Maoists, they overemphasize the inevitability of violence).

[-] Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

My accounts are being downvote-botted, this happens mostly on Lemmy.ml but sometimes happens elsewhere. That might be it.

I agree that Maoism is incorrect, and that Mao Zedong Thought is not universal. I agree that some aspects can be used in certain conditions, which is the ML line. The Sisonists have generally softened their views on universality (though not totally), such as modifying PPW for urban settings into the general process of preparing for revolution, which MLs agree with by other terms.

[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago

I guess I have to read Sison if I want to learn about Maoism from someone that is not a Gonzaloist (though I doubt Sison will be much different).

[-] Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 days ago

There's a good deal of writing on Maoism and Sison on Prolewiki and here. Problems with Maoism is a good primer, as is the article on Sison himself.

[-] qba@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 days ago

This answer from our great comrade @zhenli can help clarify things about Juche.

[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 days ago

Oh I would rather not use Quora if possible due to there being a higher amount of fascists on there than one would normally expect (and also other things...).

[-] qba@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 4 days ago
[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 days ago

Much appreciated! I definitely think that learning about Juche and how it relates to Marxism-Leninism is useful for my brain. :>

[-] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 days ago

ML with CAT (Marxism-Leninism with Chronic Anxiety Thought).

Okay, I am joking about the last part. Kind of. But I adhere to ML in its various practiced forms because history and theory have shown it to consistently succeed in rapidly transforming entire societies out of exploitative, desperate conditions into largely equal and modern societies that look after their people as a priority.

I see it kind of like this:

“When asked whether or not we are Marxists, our position is the same as that of a physicist, when asked if he is a ‘Newtonian’ or of a biologist when asked if he is a ‘Pasteurian.’ There are truths so evident, so much a part of the peoples’ knowledge, that it is now useless to debate them.” – Ernesto “Che” Guevara

When you get past the bubble of imperial slander, the evidence is overwhelming.

Now does this mean I think ML is the "end of history" theory development of Marxism? No. However, it is currently the most proven and reliable means of dealing with the recent (history) conditions. I always try to keep an open mind to further scientific development, but that doesn't mean further developments will come from people throwing out ideas at random either; they will have to come from being tested against reality and so far, ML is the one that holds up.

Note that when I say "ML in its various practiced forms", I'm going by the idea that, for example, China is its own expression of ML in culture and conditions (e.g. "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics"), not a unique branch of Marxism. Same with the USSR. Same with Cuba. Etc.

[-] VladimirLimeMint@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 days ago

Marxist-Leninist and militant unionism

[-] znsh@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 days ago

ML for sure

[-] burlemarx@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 days ago

While I do identify more with Marxist Leninists than any other tendency, I don't like these labels a lot. I think sometimes this leads more to group identity, so people are forced to uphold values of a particular tendency rather than criticize and evolve our thinking.

Marx and Engels laid the foundation of the system and there were many contributors to our field. We have people like Rosa Luxemburg, Kautsky (before he turned into a renegade), Bebel, Liebknecht, Plekhanov, Bukharin, Lenin, Mao, Trotsky, Stalin, Losurdo, Deng, and many others. Some people held contradictory views, some argued against each other, but I do think debating is important to make our field grow scientifically. Our science needs criticism and contradiction in order to develop itself more and to respond to our current practical issues.

It does not mean, however, we should embrace eclecticism, as some people may criticize correctly. When we are building a political movements we need to have a clear political line and avoid embracing everything, or we end up with nothing. In this way, MLs were the people who brought me to Marxism, and I tend to agree with them more than anyone else.

[-] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Yep. We need to always be interrogating our own positions and if they continue to be relevant to our current conditions, which will be different depending on where the struggle is located. People becoming too attached to labels encourages people to treat socialism like a subculture.

[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 days ago

I agree, but I sometimes do not understand the disdain or avoidance of labels that some communists have (not talking about peeps here); if it comes from a place of inexperience and not knowing the theory behind any communist positions, then I understand not wanting to attach a label to yourself, but if you know enough theory to say what you are yet you do not, I have trouble coming up with a good reason for doing so (admittedly, I am not sure how common this second type is). If you think you are boxing yourself in by attaching yourself to a label, then I think you misunderstand the fact that people can have labels and interrogate them while having these very same labels.

I assume that the second type might want to avoid confrontation or being wrong, but that is honestly not a major problem for me (despite myself being a beginner Marxist, I am firm in my conviction that Marxism is the right path; any criticisms thrown towards my way can either be criticized themselves or they can help me improve), and labels are important whether it is or is not desirable. It might also be a way for some people (like content-creators) to become popular amongst a wide variety of people without alienating their audience, which is a more selfish reason for it.

On a somewhat related note, Lenin made it very clear that labels are important in What is to be Done?: "only short-sighted people can consider factional disputes and a strict differentiation between shades of opinion inopportune or superfluous. The fate of Russian Social-Democracy for very many years to come may depend on the strengthening of one or the other “shade”."

[-] burlemarx@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 days ago

You are right, we do not need to avoid labels completely. But, maybe phrasing better what I meant, I am a Marxist, as this is my main school of thought. However, my political line is Marxism-Leninism. This way I do consider Marxism a single scientific and philosophical school with many contributors, while my praxis leans toward Marxism Leninism.

[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Would not your political line and your school of thought be Marxism-Leninism? Saying you adhere to Marxism while having your praxis lean towards Marxism-Leninism sounds like you have a disconnect between what you follow theoretically and what you act upon, which sounds strange.

[-] burlemarx@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 days ago

What I mean is that there's only one field of thought, which is Marxism, and all people that came afterwards contributed to this field, in different ways. ML is a political line, a specific fraction of the whole field, which is the one I adhere. This is what I meant.

[-] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 days ago

I'm a marxist-leninist, but call myself an eco-socialist as well

I'm a Heinz-57 Varieties socialist; little bit of this, a little bit of that. If it makes sense to me, I add it to my internal folio, which sometimes leads to bizarre contradiction. I blend together everything from Karl Marx to Deng to anarchism to Groucho Marx. I'm either all the labels, or none, I'm not sure, and I quit worrying about it ages ago.

[-] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 days ago

Marxism-Leninism-mzd thought-Dengism-thirdworldist

Also sympathetic towards Maoists and Anarchists.

[-] opiumfree@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 days ago
[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 days ago
[-] opiumfree@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago

because i come from a rural background and i believe that country people are still important when it comes to revolutionary purposes (a significant part of the population in my country is rural) although i dont believe its ideal everywhere

[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago

But Marxism-Leninism does not ignore the peasantry (on the contrary, they actively used the peasantry in the Russian Revolution, the Chinese Revolution, and likely several others) or rural workers in general. I am glad to see that you do not think the emphasis on rural people is not relevant in all places (some Maoists apply their overemphasis of the countryside and their people to places that are completely different from semi-feudal China).

[-] DonLongSchlong@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Is your profile pic Daniela from Katseye wearing a photoshopped commie hat? Damn sick yo

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