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submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Firstly please don't tell me that it shouldn't.

With colonized/formerly colonized countries like Palestine, South Africa, Algeria etc it seems pretty straightforward, since indigenous peoples are still large majorities of the population, but much different in America, since the eradication of indigenous people and their societies and cultures has been happening for centuries and now indigenous people only make up 1.3% of the population. Not to mention that the american population is made up of immigrants from around the world besides the descendants of settlers.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

I'd say that's up the the indigenous folks. I don't have a very detailed opinion on it in large part because no one will ever ask me for help drafting the landback policy, but in general terms it's a safe bet that indigenous peoples engaged in a struggle for liberation will typically approach the issue of other peoples' liberation humanely.

The few indigenous voices I've heard talk at length about landback have been opposed to creating an ethnostate, even in cases where the leadership is meant to be fully indigenous. It's worth noting that ethnostates as we know them are contingent on global structures of white supremacism to shape racial dynamics

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Actually, have you listened to Blowback? Season 2 covers the Cuban revolution and that's probably a pretty good primer on this sort of thing. Cuba didn't automatically exile anybody en masse, they left on their own accord because heaven forbid they had to live with the locals on equal footing. The rich Gusanos leave on their own. In the case of the US, they would probably become refugees over in Western Europe.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

they would probably become refugees over in Western Europe.

nooo don't send my cracker ass to a country with free healthcare, anything but that!

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Oh, not for poor refugees. They're privatizing everything for a reason.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

As I understand it, Native Americans would be given sovereign control over their territories and us colonizers would become citizens of those territories under their governance. It'd seem unlikely they'd want to automatically exile everyone en masse from those territories... unless we've given them a reason to...😅

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

All whites get sent to the blender and we get blended

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Can i get pumpkin spice on that?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

No you get super pain suffering juice

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

If it does happen, it'll be within an occupied North America, after its defeat in WW3.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago
[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Well, yes of course. But what does landback actually mean in the american context? For example, would it mean expelling all non-indigenous floridians from florida and designating florida as an autonomous indigenous republic as part of a socialist usa? Or is that just a glorified reservation?

I also realize different people may have different answers to this, similar to how some people believe the south should become a separate nation for Black people and others disagree.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah thats some above my intelligence level shit there.

Wanna know how to fix some plumbing? Im your guy. Landback? ….dont ask me, ill just show you exactly how stupid i am.

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