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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

For reasons that boggle my mind, I am required to keep a Google account for work (ties into some proprietary software the company uses)

Earlier today, I got the following -

Yes, I’m certain people under the age of 16 are known for their use of very specific EHR software that requires professional license to subscribe to in the first place. Makes perfect sense.

Anyone else get one of these “for you protection” msgs from Big evil?

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[-] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 148 points 1 week ago

Personalized ads are off
Timeline is off

I see this as an absolute win, keep not knowing my age!

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago

Right. Safe Search doesn't matter because Google Search has been outclassed for a while now. There's no drawbacks... other than the fact that apparently OP gets told about this every single day.

[-] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago

Data gathering and analysis is still happening in the background. They just won't show you these 2 things in the frontend.

[-] aReallyCrunchyLeaf@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

They will nuke your account after 14-30 days if you don't comply.

[-] SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

Really? That's... astonishing.

You know what? I hope they do that. So long as they give fair warning, so I don't rock up to work one day and no longer have access to work files / OAuth / 2FA without warning.

They send an email, I can escalate. Not my problem then.

[-] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

is this true? i think i have some few old google accounts i used to use, guess i should see if i can login and backup some data if there's any left...

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[-] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Mine still works years after they sent me those messages

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 71 points 1 week ago

Not your problem. Call tech support.

[-] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

That one Tech support who downvoted you. I mean yes it's a headache for them but they should also make sure to have backup options for BYOD or whatever the f is in this case

[-] atropa@piefed.social 62 points 1 week ago

Google tried for 3 months to get me to respond to their mail messages every day, now 1 year later I am glad I took the step to degoogle.

As a search engine I usually use No Ai DDG, searX,swiss cows,startpage. Browser is vanadium, ironfox,cromite on phone .

Librewolf or zen on linux laptop.

Filen as cloud storage.

Posteo.com as a mail provider

[-] Cranjis_McBasketball@piefed.world 10 points 1 week ago

I'm de-Googling right now, and I'm trying out Kagi for search. It's paid, but so far I'm liking it. No ads, and very customizable in that you can boost or lower results from specific sites, among other things.

[-] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Honest question: if you're paying for Kagi, how is that different than using a credit card for verification with Google? It would seem to me that you're willingly connecting your identity in either case. Maybe i'm wrong.

[-] Cranjis_McBasketball@piefed.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Cheat code: Have your employer pay for it. ;)

A more serious answer is, you could use an anonymous payment card, or apparently crypto as well, if that's your threat model. I'm not looking for total anonymity, but theoretically paying for the service means you are a customer and not the product. No ads/paid search rankings, no tracking, no selling your data to third parties. Yes, I do use uBlock Origin, I could block ads on DDG or whatever, but that doesn't seem like a sustainable business model. I'm kinda rethinking the services I use and how much they are worth to me. I'm not here to sell you on it, I'm on day two of my Kagi subscription, but so far I like what I see.

Edit: I don't think I really answered your question. Kagi isn't in a position to be an identity verifier, and it doesn't look like they have any interest or requirement to do that. It is looking more and more like Google/Meta/et al will be policing the Internet, and I just want no part of it. Google will absolutely sell your data to third parties. Kagi says they will never do so. I don't know how they'd prove that, but I hope they are true to their word.

[-] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I'm a proponent of privacy for the sake of privacy and as a right. Anonymity is the only way to ensure privacy. Seeking privacy does not inherently imply nefarious intent (not that you explicitly said it does). Sounds like Kagi wouldn't be a good choice for me. And that's OK. Thanks for answering my Q!

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[-] atropa@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

Good luck on your degoogle journey, transfer gmail account piece by piece to new provider and test every login, Don't do it automatically

Thank you. It's a long process to migrate all these accounts, I have hundreds of accounts listed in Bitwarden, and I'm going through them one at a time. I'm moving my email to my own domain that I've had email hosting setup on for a while now. At least I shouldn't need to do this again as I "own" the domain.

[-] stephen@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 week ago

I’ve been using Kagi for a couple years now and it’s been terrific.

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[-] maj@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago

Another filen and posteo user here. Both are great

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[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

My Google account itself is over 18. I wonder if that's verification enough.

[-] zerobot@lemmy.wtf 19 points 1 week ago

it could be passed down from your parents, fairly common to register emails for your unborn children, otherwise the cool ones might be taken by the time they are concieved and in need of an email. personally, i have reserved emails for many generations to come, my eventual grandchildren will have dope emails

[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How do you know the names of your unborn grandchildren of your unborn children?

[-] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago

I registered xx_n00bslayer420_xx just in case any of my grand kids are named that

[-] UnimportantHuman@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Didn't know you could give birth to millennials these days!

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[-] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

Nope. I got the verification email on my 20 year old account just the other day

[-] TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Mine went away, admins must realize I won't comply before hell freezes over.

[-] Lanske@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

I have to work with Microslop at work, i feel your pain

At least here in Canada it is illegal to share employees personal information without their consent, and I don't consent to giving my id to anyone. They can't fire you for not consenting. We can't do business with any company that does their customer support through Discord as a result. Discord fucked themselves so hard in the corporate world. If it requires personal id EU can't do business on it.

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[-] drolex@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago

Since porno sites are limited to 18+ people, I suggest you could authenticate yourself by providing the link to a very specific type of videos

[-] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 22 points 1 week ago

Just send them a pic of your dick wearing sunglasses, your dick has to be 18+ for that to be legal.

[-] emotional_soup_88@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago

I'm so sorry. :(

My workplace hasn't forces Big Evil upon us yet, but I think it's just a matter of time. Whenever that happens, I'll buy the cheapest off brand phone for that purpose.

[-] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago

Work should buy you the phone 🤷

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago

Ai generate an adult face, display it on a display, point camera at it, "selfie", ???, profit

Scratch that. Draw a face. See if that works. I bet you could draw a face well enough to fool the detection software.

[-] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

They ask you to turn you head in specific direction so you cant have a scripted AI response. A live deepfake could work though.

[-] SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Oh for sure I could...but should I have to?

The whole thing is bass-ackwards.

I reckon I'll just leave it and see what happens. If it shits itself - awesome. Business case then and there for ditching big Evil.

We don't need this shit, no one asked us our opinion on using it, it just .... "became a requirement to have a Google account" one day.

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago

Oh absolutely not.. yeah no, don't comply with that by any means, and encourage everybody else not to, too. I'm all for good progress and love tech, but I love it in a "it should serve us way, not the other way around.

[-] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Speaking of Google: has anybody noticed how unbearably slow Google sites are lately?

I almost never use Google search anymore. But I hit it the other day because I couldn't find some really obscure kernel error message, and the damn thing froze Firefox. And it did so repeatedly and consistently after restarting the browser, until I killed almost all Google scripts in uBO.

The same "experience" can be felt on any Google site, like Map.

[-] atropa@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

Try ironfox ,cromite ,librewolf

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've heard they intentionally ruin the experience for Firefox users, but my canon is that google engineers are simply incompetent. If they want to prove me wrong, they can fix it.

[-] promitheas@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

YouTube definitely does that. Im on Brave, been for years, and in the past year clicking on videos makes them load with several seconds delay, with a popup in the bottom left along the lines of "Experiencing interruptions? Find out why" and the help page it takes you to if you click it, basically gives the default reasons of "youre internet may be slow", but IIRC it also includes the reason that you are using ad blocking scripts

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[-] racoon@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

My work Microsoft profile as a civil servant in an American subject estate in Europe doesn’t require these documents. I gather my employer is swiftly providing them in my stead at the double

[-] HawtP0tat0@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

As an American sysadmin that mainly works in a mainly google house, there is literally just a checkbox that says 'The users in this OU are 18+'. Can't say for MS though.

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[-] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I got these as well. Can't wait to set up my own Peertube instance and then I can delete my google account

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[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

I hate that we live in a world where a selfie is now an official form of ID. My bank wanted one the other day to use their app so I just deleted it lol, get fucked

[-] hamid@crazypeople.online 7 points 1 week ago

I don't really use it but I wonder if my google account I've had since 2007 will get flagged

[-] Battle_Masker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

just upload the McLovin id from Superbad as your id. problem solved

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