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[-] No1@aussie.zone 30 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I love talking to people that I know with range anxiety when I know they could charge every night at their home.

And then they start on about "What about long trips?", and I've known them for over 20 years, and the only travel they've ever done is from the airport.

Seriously, are they getting paid ? I don't get why they feel obliged to just talk about scenarios that don't even apply to them.

[-] Ilandar@lemmy.today 24 points 6 days ago

And then they start on about "What about long trips?", and I've known them for over 20 years, and the only travel they've ever done is from the airport.

This is also why they buy those massive 4WDs as city and suburban people. It's for the imaginary off road camping trip they are definitely going to go on...one day. Could just buy a normal car and hire the 4WD, but no - they plan their entire life around the one thing that will never actually happen.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The funniest part is that if 90% of those cars attempt actual offroading, the cars will kill themselves, or, the driver will kill the car, having absolutely no clue how to drive off road.

Several years back, I was in a Prius C, hybrid, trying a shortcut through some empty truck loading dock areas, to get around an accident at a fairly major intersection not too far away.

... Me, in my little putt-putt subcompact... found myself blocked by... it must have been a Ford 350.

He had come up to a puddle.

A 3 inch deep puddle.

But it was really broad, wide.

This fucking moron was evidently not from around here, doesn't cut through this completely flat parking lot that gets puddles like this whenever it rains, which is often.

So I carefully mount a bit of a curb, with two wheels, (again, in my subcompact hybrid) to drive around this lost idiot. I carefully dismount the curb, with him honking at me the whole time, and then make a rooster tail in the 1/8 mile long, 3 inch puddle that him in his F 350 can't fucking figure out.

When I got home, I checked my undercarriage for any damage.

Nothing.

Also, no electrical problems either, in the following months, in my hybrid, that 90% of local mechanics say has electronics that are too complicated for them to even touch the car for anything semi-complicated.

Truck people are not worthy of drawing breath.

[-] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 7 points 6 days ago

Suburban people buy SUVs because they’re big with lots of space, and they’re safer. It’s a circular thing too, because when everyone else has one you need one to be “safer” in an accident, rinse and repeat.

99% of them aren’t 4WD. The number of actual 4WDs you see driving around are negligible. Most SUVs don’t even have a AWD option, let alone AWD.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 6 points 6 days ago

Suburban people buy SUVs because they’re big with lots of space

And also they don't want to admit to themselves they actually need a minivan.

[-] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 2 points 5 days ago

That’s the loss of space part, but minivans are more like regular cars than SUVs in terms of safety.

Unfortunately the best way to avoid dying in a car crash because a SUV hit you is to be in an SUV.

[-] No1@aussie.zone 6 points 6 days ago

Don't get me started on the SUV thing.

I seriously question how often they leave the tarmac, and would love to see proof if they are ever put in 4WD mode.

Meh, most of them are probably 2WD and only pretend offroaders anyways.

[-] MisterFrog@aussie.zone 11 points 6 days ago

As someone who doesn't own a car, it's wild to me that people will buy something for the extremely rare times they'll use that feature.

Renting a car for the weekend is a thing, folks...

[-] No1@aussie.zone 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I've done the maths trying to justify not having a car.several times. Eg, just uber or public transport

I am so damn close!

[-] MisterFrog@aussie.zone 5 points 5 days ago

For clarity, I'm not saying everyone can not own a car, but most people definitely don't need a yank wank truck, or a car that drives 1000 km in a single go, for the vast, vast, vast majority of their trips.

I think there's a case to be made that if one must have a car, and they have the option of choosing an electric car, they should do that, and in the rare cases they need a car that runs on fuel for range or lack of charging options, just rent one.

I hope you get some more transport options near you soon to tick you over to the car-free life!

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 3 points 5 days ago

Not buying more car than I need was definitely something I thought about when I bought mine. It's okay that trips I do every 2 or 3 months need a charging stop. I was taking a break during those anyway, so the smaller battery size is fine.

[-] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 days ago

I did the maths back in 2017 and got rid of my car. Calculated that if I took two or less car trips per week, it was cheaper to get a taxi for those than to pay for ongoing maintenance, registration etc.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 6 days ago

I have a mate who genuinely drives across australia. For leisure, he's a travelling man. He"s done melb to broome, to busselton, followed the 'ghan, whole kit and caboodle.

He does it in a divvy van he's had converted to lpg.

[-] DiaDeLosMuertos@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago

A bloke at work years ago told me a cool story. He went way way up north to visit a mate. It was either Cooktown ( before bitumen ) but I think even a lot further, I just can't recall.

Anyway he gets to the area or campground where his mate was staying. Absolutely pissing down. He finds the ranger and asks where "Bill" ? lives.

The ranger steps outside to direct him, still pissing down. He looks at this blokes ute and asks if he had just got here in that ( I mean of course ) then asks if he drove past or through "such and such massive puddle " down the road kinda thing. Yes of course. Ranger says he's pulled out three 4X s that day already. Bloke was in an ordinary Falcon Ute. He just drove right up on the side of the puddle ( probably a lake really.....) and got past it.

Common sense isn't so common, and yeah too many people head out into places that they're unaware of the dangers that are possible or the skills that could come in handy.

[-] vividspecter@aussie.zone 3 points 6 days ago

I suspect much of it is a fear of change. People are looking for a remotely plausible reason to dismiss it, even if it doesn't apply to them, because it means they won't have to modify their behaviour. You can see this with plant based diets, public and active transport, and cooking and heating technologies such as induction cooktops and heatpumps.

The plus side is that the moment people actually make the change, they rarely go back. See also congestion pricing across the world, where the view of it is negative right up until it's implemented and it almost immediately becomes popular.

[-] 18107@aussie.zone 27 points 6 days ago

TL;DR: You can't charge in remote areas in central Australia.

If you live in a city you can charge almost anywhere. All major highways are covered. Check PlugShare for charger locations.

If you can charge at home, you'll get cheaper and more convenient electricity.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If you look at charging in remote areas, you might be surprised.

That's just fast charger coverage, the ones you use during a road trip. Every three phase outlet, 15 amp caravan power outlet or plain old 10 amp outlet is also good for a charge if you're stopping overnight and have the appropriate connections.

There's coverage holes deep inland where you can drive 500km away from a charger and then be unable to get back, but they're a lot harder to reach than you'd think. Almost nobody goes to those places, that's why there's no infrastructure there.

[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 6 days ago

Yeah there’s not a lot of petrol stations that way either.

But if it’s a problem, rent a gasser.

[-] TheHolm@aussie.zone 1 points 6 days ago
[-] 18107@aussie.zone 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yes, really. I recommend checking plugshare (linked above) to find chargers before complaining about the lack of chargers.

Plugshare map showing Sydney covered in chargers

[-] Salvo@aussie.zone 3 points 6 days ago

As long as Plugshare data is accurate. A lot of towns only have a 3kW public charger.

No one does the maths to determine that it would take 20 hours to fill a 60kW battery.

Some have 7kW and some even have 22kW, so you can park your car in a side street for 3 hours before you can continue your journey.

Fast DC chargers are available in main highways, and more are being installed all the time, but just because a charger is shown on Plugshare; there is no guarantee that it; A) will be in service, B) will charge your car in a reasonable time, C) will not be occupied.

[-] 18107@aussie.zone 6 points 6 days ago

Plugshare has this cool feature where it tells you if a charger is a rapid charger or a destination charger. The orange ones in the image are rapid chargers. As you can see, they are not just on highways.

Plugshare also has a rating system to give you an indication of reliability, user reports so you can see if it was working recently, and even has integration with several charging companies to give you realtime information about how many chargers are available or in use.

The old tritium chargers had reliability issues, but the newer chargers seem to be a lot better so far.

[-] TheHolm@aussie.zone 0 points 5 days ago

Please check what kind of charges are they. majority < 8Kw. It is not good even for destination charger. It would be pretty good for home, but not a place where you have to take your car to recharge.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 4 points 6 days ago

Electricity network providers are pushing the NSW government to relax rules blocking them from entering the Sydney EV charger market, arguing the city’s rollout is falling behind as drivers struggle to find somewhere to plug in.

The electricity network providers want to be able to compete with their own customers, and that's the claim they're using to justify it. That doesn't make it true.

Meanwhile, those same network providers are often taking months to get around to grid upgrades to connect new fast chargers. I think the one at Erina Fair was sitting there for six months before it finally went live.

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