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[–] [email protected] 135 points 1 year ago (22 children)

The original game as invented by bored semi-drunk Scots was, I’m sure, a good laugh several hundred years ago with wee sticks and a random round thing.

The modern game and all its hideous capitalist/ classist cultural connotations is fucked.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The original game as invented by bored semi-drunk Scots was, I’m sure, a good laugh several hundred years ago with wee sticks and a random round thing.

Robin Williams did a great bit on this.

https://youtu.be/14NQIq4SrmY?si=kv-5NtoSsdtBs3p0

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Well, I recently learned of the existence of Excel competitions, so I’m not sure about the ‘most boring’ part.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some people really excel at spreadsheets.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you don't see the beauty in the orchestrated beauty of Excel macros and formulae, then there's no helping you.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Mini-golf is actually kind of fun.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago

Wait until you hear about the laws in place that guarantee them access to water their fields no matter the drought. Nobody has heard of an unkempt golf course.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not just that, but I found a few golf courses in my city where natural habitats used to be. These place could have easily been changed into nature parks for the local residents to go wind down a bit, but noooOOOooo. Some rich assholes had to buy the land and destroy the ecosystem so they could whack a ball around some fucking grass into a little hole.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

IMHO sport is a misnomer. "Game" seems more fitting to me.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (23 children)

I'm always interested in this take. By definition,.it's clearly a sport.

How do you define sport and how does it not meet the definition? It's a game of physical skill, mental concentration, and competition.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Where do you draw the line between sports and games? Are sports competitive where games are fun? Is poker a sport? Are video games capable of being sports? What could be done to golf that would make it a sport? Are all sports games if not all games are sports?

These are the questions that keep me up at night.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago

The golf course near me has spent the last month about a foot underwater.

I have never been so smug. I hope it's ruined.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (13 children)

every golf course could be a lovely botanical garden/park or arboretum, with little paths every which way and carefully crafted scenery to make you feel like you're inside a disney movie

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

wpid-dgladeau_0113_0748

You see this?

I used to hike along the coast there quite regularly but someone decided it was much better to turn the whole thing into a gulf course and to illegally block access to locals.

Edit: Of course they also chose the driest part of the island.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (8 children)

As an environmentalist, fuck Kentucky bluegrass, fuck golf, and fuck lawns while we're at it

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Las Vegas has something like 70 golf courses wasting inordinate amounts of water. Of course most houses also have outside private swimming pools too.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don't care for golf and wish golf courses were better used spaces, but the thing about golf that makes it interesting is the meditative practice of being able to swing the club in just the right way to make the ball go where it needs to.

I like archery and you have the same sort of thing going on there. You have to have your positioning, movements, focus, and smoothness of action to hit the target. You can tell how you failed before the arrow hits the target. Working on fine tuning your actions is enjoyable.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I live in Indiana, so there's (generally) no shortage of rain. The golf courses in this town still water the entire grass of the course every day. Even if it rained the day before. Even if it's raining right then and there. There aren't water shortages here, but what a waste.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Most courses use man made ponds as both hazards and as retention ponds so they can use that rain water.

You know what uses three times the amount of water per acre? Corn. And almonds use about ten times more water than corn. And people have only just started caring about lawns, that use two orders of magnitude more water, fertilizer, and land than golf courses.

Golf courses really aren't that bad from an ecological point of view when compared acre per acre to other large man made structures. They're generally pretty small when compared to other large landscaping projects at 30-80 acres. The issue is when a city has like twenty courses just for the purpose of driving up housing prices.

Would that land be better as a park? Probably, but this is the US, someone would see an unprofitable "empty" plot of land and throw million dollar houses on it.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You know what uses three times the amount of water per acre? Corn. And almonds use about ten times more water than corn.

And we get food out of that input, unlike a golf course where you get nothing of value.

And people have only just started caring about lawns, that use two orders of magnitude more water, fertilizer, and land than golf courses.

Have you seen a golf course before? They're literally lawns.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just don't understand the need for so many courses, I played golf as a kid on the same one for 10 years, the local environment allowed it to maintain itself for the most part.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I used to hang out with those types. It's similar to country clubs, airline lounges, and first class travel. It's not so much about the amenities of the luxuries as much as it's about whom you meet. Or don't meet. You become good at golf as part of an upper class social thing.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Golf is so bloody damn stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Golf is a dying sport. Courses where I live have been closing, some have been turned into parks

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Golf is boring to watch. But for most players it is a social game. It's like going to a bar with a few friends, but getting a little exercise. And they don't do a ton of leveling. Costs too much, and using the land the way it is, is what makes a course unique and interesting.

That said, it would be easy to find a sport that destroys more natural land. Ever see a football, baseball or soccer stadium... including all the parking. Then realize how many baseball fields their are in america (or soccer fields in other countries). They are several times the number of golf courses, and they all need more parking each than one golf course.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (11 children)

More than leveling the ground, watering it is the main environmental issue

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Golf courses use a shit ton of water, especially in areas where grass isn't supposed to fuckin grow

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are 15,500 golf courses in America.

There are just over 900 stadiums in America.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Devil's advocate, in a dense suburban setting it keeps that land from being paved over and turned into a commercial zone. But when it is in a rural setting, absolutely.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I don't agree. It's not like the land being used in that urban setting is home to wildlife. It's not filled with trees. It's a giant lawn that gets watered every day and if you want to be there, you have to pay. I don't see that as being an improvement to anything else in a city.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Golf courses, at least the ones I've been to, have tons of trees. They're usually densely forested in the areas between holes to make a sort of barrier. And I certainly see more wildlife on a golf course than in, say, the parking lot of a strip mall.

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