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Mildly Infuriating

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Update…Per Microsoft’s instructions, disabled all tracking protections in Safari and requested desktop mode and it works. Their instructions say turn protections back on after using teams… 😐

Funny enough it works in Safari and not Edge…tho that may be Apple’s fault since all browsers are somewhat just versions of Safari, last I heard…

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 year ago (17 children)

I just dont understand how any company can use a product as broken as teams.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It comes with the Office subscription. People who choose it are not the ones using it daily.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My company's IT department tried to push Teams since we pay for it either way. The rest of the company revolted and stayed on Slack.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I've been in an interview and the hiring manager wanted to have a call in Teams. Didn't take that job.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This fucking mentality. "Let's use this thing that's free instead of paying 50 dollars/month, the people who have to work with this can get their asses fucked!"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The business/work version of Teams isn't free, you're paying for it as part of the 365 subscription.

That's part of why there's a push to use Teams: companies see it as already paying for it, so might as well use it.

And of course there's the constant barrage of fear mongering coming out of the security crowd that says the only sensible, secure thing to do is bring absolutely every fucking thing into a native 365 app. Because they fail to notice that the attack surface they're so concerned about is a healthy software market.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now imagine being a freelance developer, who works for more than two clients, using Teams with different email addresses.

It's a horror!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That's me, but with four different clients. Have to switch between accounts all the time. It's hell.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm not a huge fan of Teams, as it lacks critical features that alternatives have. But I've never experienced anything that would make me say it's broken. What exactly are you referring to?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

If you do a lot of B2B interaction as a guest tenant you cannot switch tenants without Teams being rendered inoperable.

Once you switch the client will continue to crash with the only recourse being to close the client and erase it's cache manually.

It's beyond annoying.

Most recently with the update to add "Teams Classic" as the package name. Now, then coming out of suspend, the client will randomly just be a white window, while still functioning as if it isn't, so you accidentally click the white box and start calls. This also forces you to force close teams and reopen it.

Yes, Teams 2.0 is available on enterprise, however some enterprises are annoying about updates and will sit on the upgrade for several years.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use teams for work and have not had a single problem in the almost three years I’ve been with the company. We have teams phones and pretty much all teams licensing. I’ve had lots of problems with zoom and go to meeting. Especially with GoToMeeting when I was managing a citrix environment.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I can field this. The answer is simple: they don't. They use Slack internally.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (6 children)

In Microsoft's defense I phones don't have proper web browsers. They are all the same under the hood

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, this might be it. For anyone not aware, every browser on iOS is just safari with a different skin and some plugins to work with whatever ecosystem you actually are trying to use.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Lemmy has a serious boner for hating on Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Teams is exceptional in being terrible.

I was totally over trash talking MS stuff until Teams came along and reminded me just how terrible they can be when they have a market segment cornered.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

When it works it’s alright. Interfaces with the rest of office. But Microsoft literally breaks it all the time…it’s never been more broken then when I updated to Windows 11 today. Literally spent 6 fucking hours on updates, reboots, uninstalls and reinstalls. When I logged off and went home I was still using the damn web version because windows updates were immediately breaking anything tech support fixed. I got paid for doing very little but really frustrating day.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Agreed but also fuck teams.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i hate MS, Google, Amazon, Apple ..... FOSS or bust fuck these robber barron birches

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same here but I've got to admit Google does some cool stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Speaking as someone who has to use Google Cloud Platform most days; they also do some horrific stuff, and their documentation and support are miles behind the AWS and Azure equivalents. And having worse documentation than Azure is quite the achievement.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Bust fuck ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I've been using computers for well over 30 years. Teams is an unintuitive pile of shit.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Yes we have

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

If they would actually fix their shit then we would probably be less critical of it but right now it is a pile of steaming garbage

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

~~Lemmy~~ the internet has a serious boner for hating on Microsoft.

you must be new here

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We were told that Teams was the bees knees and it would massively enhance collaboration and productivity due to its fantastic integration.

Well, let me tell you that my disappointment was immeasurable.

It is so slow, so inflexible, so unpolished. I despise it for anything other than a quick chat.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, like there's issues but I was literally just arguing with a guy earlier who genuinely thought that using Linux was a magic bullet for network security because "FOSS is secure!"

He was more worried about microsoft skimming his data than threat actors planting malware. THAT was his primary "security" concern. Find me any Sec analyst that is worried about what Microsoft is doing versus hacktivists or foreign governments, you can't. We know it's happening, just don't use personal shit on your company computer.

Then he accused me of being a Microsoft fanboy because I said users having unrestricted access to putting whatever software they want on their machine is a massive attack surface.

These wannabe's are so fucking bad here, and because there's so many of them the non-IT users get up voted while actual IT professionals get downvoted for speaking the truth based on actual security policies.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Teams, when used within a single Org, works great. For 3rd party interaction, or working for multiple Orgs I would highly recommend almost any other product.

The intra-org integration with SharePoint and document management/data retention is very good.

But nonsense like what OP is experiencing is why even I, as the senior MS Support SysAdmin at my employer, refuse to use Microsoft Office products on my personal Android phone.

If they want/need me to do that, they can give me a dedicated phone just for that purpose. MS MAM is never touching my personal equipment in a million years.

OP is stuck between a rock and a crap place.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I was hired during the pandemic and Teams has been my main way of interacting with my employer and co-workers since 2021. I like it OK most days but Microsoft likes to release updates that break things several times a year. Oh…I like this new feature! And…an update broke it

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Teams is far more than mildly infuriating

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I don't use Teams but I use WebEx on a Linux laptop. Can't imagine how it can get worse than that

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know what's great about Microsoft Teams compared to other chat apps? It's super on point with updating your colleague's status. There've been times I thought my colleague was MIA for hours, but turns out, it was just a glitch. A quick restart with the app and boom, we're back in sync! 🤪

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Grey circle = they were fired 😂

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

They don't even let you log in if your browser is set to block third party cookies. Fuck Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

They say it is rewritten and in reality it has the exact same bugs and issues as before. Kudos to the product manager who managed to sale it as new

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have a "Use Desktop Mode" on iPhone browsers?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ah…after 15 minutes of fucking around I was able to get it to work only after disabling all tracking prevention at Microsoft’s direction and clearing all browser history and requesting desktop website. Their instructions say to turn tracking protections back on when you are done using teams browser version…

Now I can go online and tell my team windows 11 is still installing. Hurray! 😂

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Didn't you know? With Microsoft products those trackers are required. The app just wouldn't be able to function if they couldn't track everything you typed into it. You should really be more thoughtful of Microsoft and how you're being a big meany by not giving them your data.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Glad you got it fixed. It really grinds my gears that so many big companies have taken their lightweight and usable mobile interfaces and borked them, replacing it with a page saying "Use our app 🤭", then the app is just the mobile page in a webview wrapper for the majority of functions.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I work in the tech support field and Microsoft is making me want to quit and find a work that doesn't involve using Teams. I've never liked them very much and been a Linux user for over 20 years, but I still have to deal with them for work. However they're becoming increasingly difficult to tolerate.

They really really want Windows users to have a Microsoft account. I avoid that and prefer local accounts. But Microsoft likes to link my local account with my Microsoft account anyway, because I need to give it to them to play Minecraft on Windows. So now even if I didn't want to, my Windows account is showing the picture of my Microsoft/Windows Gaming account profile because I must have passed over a box to uncheck somewhere while logging into Windows Gaming to play Minecraft... mildly infuriating Microsoft.

I used a personal laptop for work a few times and accidentally connected my OneDrive to my corporate account. Again, I must have misunderstood the configuration and login process because it synced (more like moved) all my personal files on my work's OneDrive. Mildly infuriating Microsoft.

Same personal laptop used for work sometimes. I use Edge specifically to separate work from personal browsing and somehow, again, I logged in somewhere with my work account and it synced all my personal browsing history and saved passwords from a different browser, into my "Edge for business" online thigny. So when I was using Edge at work, on my work computer, it was suggesting me logins and passwords from my personal browser that I use on different computers. Mildly infuriating Microsoft.

Teams, OneDrive, Edge for business, their subscription model, forcing Microsoft accounts... individually they are mildly infuriating but combined together, let's say it's a powerful generator of rolling eyes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Good guy MS, protecting you from webkit? 🤔

AFAIK it has something to do with the weird rerouting they do during the login process. I had issues using containers in Firefox for a while, too. Though nowadays it works, both on mobile and on desktop.

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