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[–] 73 points 3 years ago (10 children)

I rarely feel like it ever helps, and it's taxing on the kidneys/liver. So, I tend to not bother until it's bad enough.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    My friend works out and takes pain meds frequently.

    He also complains about yearly kidney stones.

    I have never had a kidney stone. Where he's on his 8th one.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago

    Yeah, they're partly genetic but you can risk it. I have a couple of friends who have had their third or fourth stone and I've never felt so much as a slight discomfort on my kidneys. It makes me wonder wtf they're doing to themselves but I'm not one to judge.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago*

    Was he on narcotics? I'm finding no link between Acetaminophen or Ibuprofen to kidney stones. Just drink more water.

    https://www.utsouthwestern.edu/newsroom/articles/year-2023/june-prevent-kidney-stones.html

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30829133/

    Ibuprofen is mostly processed by your liver as well. Acetaminophen uses a bit of both.

    This appears to occur predominantly systemically in the liver [1,10], but may occur pre-systemically in the gut as well [11]. Ibuprofen is almost completely metabolized, with little to no unchanged drug found in the urine [1,9,12].

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4355401/

    Acetaminophen (APAP) is normally metabolized in the liver and kidney by P450 enzymes. No toxicity is observed with therapeutic doses of APAP.

    https://www.goodrx.com/acetaminophen/is-tylenol-acetaminophen-bad-for-your-liver-or-kidneys

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8669426/

    Tylenol (acetaminophen) is almost completely broken down by the liver. During this process, a toxic chemical forms. Normally, the liver makes it non-toxic. But if you take too much Tylenol, the liver can't properly process it all. The toxic chemical can then build up and poison liver cells.

    https://www.goodrx.com/acetaminophen/is-tylenol-acetaminophen-bad-for-your-liver-or-kidneys

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    [–] 61 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    So yall are just talking about baby meds for minor headaches. I'm up on that prescription grade headache medication for my debilitating migraines, and I can not take it more than a few times a month without doing irreparable damage to my kidneys and liver. Sometimes, dealing with headache pain is the healthier option.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago

    You must be on a preventative, right? Rather than just managing pain when they come on?

    I've tried Nurtec, Aimovig, and about to start Ajovy.

    Nurtec and Aimovig worked pretty well, though not perfect. If you haven't tried a preventative, I highly suggest seeing a neurologist, if you can.

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    [–] 43 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    First try drinking a glass of water though

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  • [–] 20 points 3 years ago

    Water, apple, handful of nuts, Walk around for at least 15 minutes. If a headache isn't on the way out then maybe try to shift the problem to your liver with some ibuprofen or Tylenol but it shouldn't be the first thing people try.

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    And just eat in general. My goodness sometimes I'm so surprised, I'll be feeling terrible (usual for me) and I'll realize I haven't eaten in a long time and take like one bite of something and instantly my headache and possibly fatigue are significantly better.

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  • [–] 37 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    I follow that anime logic where I just need sleep and a massive buffet to get back to 100%.

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    [–] 35 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    .... but not too often.

    If you have regular headaches, see a doctor. Could be hay fever or other allergies for example and there's stuff that works much better for that than painkillers.

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    [–] 33 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Holy shit people. Don’t take medical advice from some Internet forum filled with memes.

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    [–] 21 points 3 years ago

    just make sure to read the information slip, and at least here in sweden the recommendation is to not treat headaches with pain relievers more than 9 days per month or it can just cause more headaches.

    what i go with is just doing what i can to handle the headache/migraine without medicine, but feel 0 guilt about popping a pill if needed. Especially if i'm going somewhere or have something at home i want to actually enjoy i'll not hesitate to medicate.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (13 children)

    Excuse me I would rather not build up resistance to painkillers and then be screwed once I REALLY need painkillers.

    The headache sucks, but it's not wisdom tooth level pain.

    Edit: I'm not taking about opioids or stuff. I'm talking about simple over the counter meds that aren't addictive but you can still build up resistance to. I already managed to have that happen and have one type become useless

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    There's a VERY big difference between "pain relievers", NSAIDs, and "pain killers" which are opioids. NSAIDs are effective and safe if used properly.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    Not all pain killers fit into those two categories.

    The normal headache pill, paracetamol (most notably sold as "Panadol"), is neither NSAID nor opioid.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Absolutely, the risks of addiction are monumentally different and should not be conflated. That said, my sister definitely did get addicted to Advil in her teens and had to go through withdrawal. On the other hand, I haven't had an Advil in over ten years and in that time have only experienced a handful of headaches, each only lasting a few minutes. Chances are, I'm just very lucky. But there's also a good chance that if I resorted to Advil before meditation and hydration, my luck would run out more frequently. YMMV.

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    [–] 17 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Pain is usually a message, often that message is "This body part is damaged, try to modify how you are moving to not aggravate the wound" In those instances I dont actually WANT to remove the pain because its helping me heal faster and correctly. When its bedtime and its stopping me from sleeping? THEN I'll take some pain meds, as lack of sleep is also bad for my health

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It would be nice if it was that simple for everyone, but it isn't. Migraines especially are debilitating for me and I will 100% take my pills over trying to ride the pain.

    Sometimes, I know why I have a headache, but most of the time, it pops up for no apparent reason. Always had been since I was 10 years old. So fuck that noise, after a certain threshold, I take ibuprofen and acetaminophen instead of suffering for hours.

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    [–] 16 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I just saw a doctor about this, turns out chronic headaches are not normal. It turned out I have an allergy giving me congestion even though I’m breathing normally but enough to induce pressure on my head. Go see a doctor if you’re having daily headaches.

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    [+] [B] 13 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)
    [–] 13 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I just sent this to my wife lol. She needs to hear it.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago

    medicine on other side of room tho

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    I don't take the headache medicine because it never actually helps with my headaches. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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    [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    As someone has had a headache since 1986... take the medicine.

    And if you don't have any to take, keep talking to doctors until one of them listens.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    Pain medication IS medicine!

    There is no point in suffering.

    Just because you are dependent on a medicine, does not mean you are an addict.

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    [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    A friend actually needed this lol, just take your meds.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago

    Spoken like a true someone who doesn't have secondary side-effects to headache medication.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Things a MF who will never ride in to Valhalla at the head of a winged horde would say...

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    [–] 9 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    I'm not looking for glory, but I have a weird (probably unscientific) thought that if I don't take a fever-lowering med, it makes the sickness go away faster. Because there's a good reason why my body is doing that. But that's about more than just a headache though.

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    [–] 9 points 3 years ago

    There's no glory in suffering, but there's stubbornness in my heart.

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  • (applies to all medications)

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