Each chip runs ONE model, hardwired into the transistors.
That's... that's an ASIC. That's literally just an ASIC... with all the tradeoffs and compromises that come with it.
Each chip runs ONE model, hardwired into the transistors.
That's... that's an ASIC. That's literally just an ASIC... with all the tradeoffs and compromises that come with it.
Shh you'll pop the bubble if you start talking sensibly. It's not an ASIC—it's a specialized piece of hardware optimized to execute a model with unparalleled performance. Now buy my entire stock of them and all the supply for the next two years please.
(Figuring out the compose combination for an emdash took longer than I'd like to admit lol)
Dedicated, single purpose, chip designs are always going to be faster and more efficient to run than general purpose ones. The question will be what the environmental, and financial costs will be of updating to a new model. With a general purpose design it's just a case of liading sone new code. With a model that's baked into the silicon you have to design and manufacture new chips, then install them.
I can see this being useful in certain niche usecases where requirements are not going to change, but it sounds rather limiting in the general case.
A lot of the models we have are about as good as they are going to get. I mean, ChatGPT 5 isn't appreciably better than ChatGPT 4. Hook one of those models or even one not as strong to a purpose-built RAG pipeline and a controller to run as mesh of interconnected prompts and agents, and you'll blow away general purpose chatbots in niche areas in terms of cost, efficiency, and performance.
The question then becomes, to what purpose can you put this super fast, dedicated machine that performs certain small-scopes, simple tasks really well, but also fucks up often enough that you can't depend on it. To what tasks could you set a bot that does stuff with minimal competence let's say 90% of the time, and the other 10%, doesn't create even bigger problems?
That domain exists, but it's thin and narrow.
To what tasks could you set a bot that does stuff with minimal competence let's say 90% of the time, and the other 10%, doesn't create even bigger problems?
Sounds like a typical human to me.
A chip like this would be perfect for an autonomous robot. Drone, humanoid, whatever - something that still needs to be able to handle itself when it's cut off from outside control. Always nice to have an internet connection to draw on a bigger, more capable "brain" somewhere else, but if that connection is lost you want it to be able to carry on with whatever it's doing and not just flop over limply.
Sure. It excels in cases where 60-90% success rate is better than nothing. If you have a smart mine that doesn't detonate on civilians, 50% success is better than 0. It reduces civilian casualties by 50%, which is still awful, but if you're going to plant mines it's better than entirely indiscriminate. Use cases definitely exist. A false positive means it doesn't detonate on one soldier but might on the next — still an effective deterrent. A false negative means it blows up a kid, which a dumb mine would also do anyway.
It's just generally not in situations most people are generally thinking about. You have to imagine cases where there is some upside and no downside. It doesn't work in a context of say, auto-breaking a car if a pedestrian is detected because a false positive is going to cause accidents and probably kill people even if in other circumstances it does save lives.
A lot of ai hallucinations can be resolved by simply running the results through additional prompts automatically, then checking the various results against each other or against reference material.
Many agentic systems already do that with a limited number of follow up/check steps, but they're often restricted by acceptable response times or just sheer costs.
I managed to get copilot in excel to run a 43 prompt chain in just a little under 10 minutes the other day. The result was exactly what I needed.
If you have 73 times the output, you can potentially afford to do that kind of processing in an acceptable time frame and cost level.
Why doesn't it work in those contexts? It's better than nothing in those contexts too. I'd rather have a car with onboard intelligence to take over than an uncontrolled one.
I think you're letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, here. There are plenty of situations where you don't need a robot to behave perfectly. People don't behave perfectly.
No, it doesn't work in this context because false positive is worse than nothing. False negative is better than nothing. Zero sum. Obviously it depends where you set the threshold of false positive and false negative. I imagined a very simple scenario the first time.
If even only .001% of the time, you're going to cause a shit load accidents. You're going to average a car slamming on the breaks for no reason like every.... 2 minutes would be .12, 20 would be 1.2, 200 would be 12% 800 would be 48%, so you're going to have every car slam on their breaks every 12-15 hours of drive time. That would be an absolute mess.
I have no idea what you're thinking the scenario is here. The alternative is an uncontrolled car, I think I'd rather it had at least some brains behind the decisions it's making.
How does it decide the car is uncontrolled? That's a failure scenario, too.
I'm not even sure what you're arguing. I said from the get go that there are niche cases where AI is nothing but positive. You seem to be arguing that there are a bunch more cases. Fine. Maybe the niche is slightly less thin and narrow than I think. Cool.
Facedeer is just a pro-AI concern troll from Reddit.
He kicked off his part of the thread by complaining about people, and then speculating that maybe this chip could do a thing without any evidence.
I'm middle of the road on AI. I think it has uses. I also think this technology is a dead end (i.e. this is not going to lead to AGI) and had people understood from the start the limitations of it, investment would've been more modest and cautious. Is a great technology. You can do cool things with it. But it will never be able to significantly replace humans. However it may be really painful watching the investor class wrestle with that reality.
I think the chip does have uses and I think building it even with today's models would last a long time. But the number of scenarios where it is unequivocally better than nothing is smaller than AI bros (I draw a line between an enthusiast like myself and a bro who is all in and won't hear reason) want to think.
Last point. In theory this chip is great. Based on my reading this is a substitute for an H100 — a data center GPU (APU?). This isn't going into smart mines or drones and probably not cars. Not without more development. So while there is potential here, none of these use cases are practical. This is a way for OAI or whomever to run their current models just the way they are for cheaper but with a hardware cost to upgrade. This isn't going to matter for the rest of us for a while.
When the regular controller of the car - be it human, another AI, whatever - isn't sending control signals, then the onboard controller knows that the car is uncontrolled. Of course it's a "failure scenario", I'm suggesting that this chip would be ideal for picking up when that sort of thing happens. The alternative is to just fall over.
I, too, am not sure what you're arguing. I suggested that a low-power high-speed AI chip like this would be ideal for putting in robots, which have power constraints and aren't always in reliable contact with outside controllers. That's a very broad "niche" indeed. I don't know what all this landmine stuff or probabilities of brake-slamming is all about or how it relates to what I suggested.
My scenario was a safety device that prevented cars from hitting pedestrians. You're stuck on this autonomous self control in the event of loss of human control and it seems like you're interpreting what I'm saying in that context, which I wasn't. I presented a scenario when it's a good idea and one when it isn't. Nothing to do with your autonomous control scenario.
But let's see. If you've got a done that can fly itself for a few seconds or minutes if it loses signal, simply loitering waiting for control to continue, or maybe continuing on a flight path until it is out of jamming range. Alternative is uncontrolled crash, possibility of avoiding that is nothing but upside, whether it's 10% or 90% success. It's a good example of the type of scenario I was describing with the smart mine.
I wasn't trying to address your scenario because it already falls into the niche I was describing. I was trying to demonstrate how to consider scenarios where AI is good vs ones where it has an unacceptable tradeoff. Where the consequences of failure don't outweigh the benefits when it gets it right.
So I think we were talking past each other, and if my communication was unclear then I apologize. In my defense, it's 2AM here.
fpgas can sort of be a middle ground, but i don't know if they're capable of running llms
I think I've heard that they can running LLMs!
Is there such a thing as modular fpga so that you could "plug in" another one and add more gates, sort of daisy chain them? I don't know if such interfaces exist , sounds like it might need lots of bandwidth.
I bet you could! The interface and literally be what ever you want with FPGAs. You'd just have to keep things organized and program them one at a time I think
I know very little about fpgas, so I can't answer your question, but let's hope someone else can
The HC1 chip doesn't load model weights from memory. It etches them directly into the transistors. Every weight becomes a physical circuit.
That's one way to avoid memory bandwidth constraints!
Hopefully the low cost per kill drones get more affordable. Maybe load up Linux into one of those things and just break off the murderous knives.
This would be great if you could have a machine that would allow you to swap chips… and then they only charge < 50 USD for each chip.
Can't be that cheap unfortunately if they maxed out the die area. Though it is an older node so maybe not as expensive as flagship GPU chips and shit
Would be great, but feels unlikely, most of the gains they're making rely on the lack of versatility.
Go landfills!
That’s all technology though, sadly.
This one feels shorter-lived than the average chip, tho.
With the hardwiring and all.
The thing that differentiates ChatGPT and Claude is likely more the RAG pipeline that backs them and feeds them context. The models really aren't getting better, we're just getting better at using them to break tasks down into units so small AI can figure it out. I'd bet a GPT 5 model or a Claude Opus 4.6 model would last 5, maybe 10 years before you really start to notice its capabilities are falling behind. I'll bet you could use GPT 4o for 5-10 years and it would be fine.
But if they could make it so the chip is the only thing that is obsolete, That could be recycled pretty easily, or resold.
Then it would stop being 73 times faster than NVIDIA.
That doesn’t make sense.
If you add levels of indirection, extra transistors and such, it would be surprising to manage to maintain the same level of performance, especially since this design seems to rely on hardwiring to achieve its speed...
Pretty sure the advantage is the AI directly on the chip.
Now it's your proposal's turn not to make any sense. This is an article about a chip with a hardwired model being super fast.
Of course the hardwiring is inflexible, and much, much faster.
I just think you want to argue
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