Newsom’s message to the Democratic Party: Be more ‘culturally normal’ (edition.cnn.com)

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[-] Ribbons@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago

It'll never cease to amaze (read: infuriate) me how conservatives and establishment dems continuously say that trans issues are getting a "disproportionate amount of time" when we weren't ever going to get jack shit from Biden or Harris outside of a mention here or there.

It of course goes without saying that these issues don't detract from other ones and time can and should be spent on them all. It also of course goes without saying that Newsom can eat a dick.

Vire (vi/vim

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Define normal pissant. I'm sure my Inland Imperial cultural norms would rub a shitstain like Newsome in all the wrong ways, least of all my absolute contempt for authority.

[-] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

I can't hear what you're saying with all that shoe pollish in your mouth.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago

Democratic voters to Newsom: Fuck off.

[-] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

Democrat voters if he wins the primary: most important election of our lifetime, we need to elect him so the other guy that's exactly like him doesn't get elected

[-] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago

I deeply hope it won't happen, but if it's him or the Nazis, then...

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

If he's the candidate, I'm sitting the election out. Look, my community is under an attempted genocide right now. And as we've seen from the Starmer government in the UK, a nominally liberal government can be just as bad for trans rights as any Republican government. When Newsom says "be more culturally normal," that is a dogwhistle for "take away the human rights of trans people."

If the party isn't willing to fight for my civil rights, sorry, I don't owe you shit. You chose to do nothing after they first came for me, so I will laugh when they come for you.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Yep, this is how we keep shifting right. I don’t care how much it smells, when it comes down to the actual election, hold your nose and vote to shift left.

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

This mentality was super effective in 2024 at stopping the worst president of our lives from gaining power.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah, they sure seem like they're just going to keep doing that though. So all of us sober and sane voters who know how critical this election is going to be should just make sure we don't let Newsom become the candidate, right?

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Ideally, the sober and sane voters will vote in the primary against him so there is a good candidate during the general to vote for. Regardless, Newsome is better than anything the Republicans will push through primaries, so if that's the less bad option, then that's the unfortunate reality of a FPtP election system. I think we're all hoping that the primaries give a good option, not a less bad option, but people have to show up.

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[-] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Honestly, at this point I don't blame you. If this is the dogsh*t the Dems consider a reasonable compromise then the Union has fallen.

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

If its him or the Nazi, the Nazis have won.

[-] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

You aren't going to like who is currently in power.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago

Telling you lack a highschool reading comprehension without telling me you lack a highschool reading comprehension.

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[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 41 points 2 days ago

Newsom effectively wants the Dems to be less progressive. From my perspective, the Dems continue to lose because they continue to shaft their progressive constituents, of which there are many.

Things have shifted so far to the right in the US that mainline Dems would be considered conservative in many other countries of the world. The US does not have a left party, progressive or otherwise. If you accept this, then it's easy to suggest Newsom is just one other centrist masquerading as a leftist. His claims here support that view.

There are many, many other reasons not to like Newsom, but ultimately he is a symptom of a much deeper problem.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah but you can’t start shifting things left again unless you get elected. We like to think it’s just reality that shifted right, not the voters, but maybe they are.

Each side has mostly dedicated voters who will always vote for them, and a relatively small population who can go either way. They’re the ones who decide the election: who are they?

[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 8 points 1 day ago

Stop being hypercapitalist swine

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 days ago

Watching a few of his answers and the smarmy face he maintains throughout them makes me wonder why anyone in the know thinks this guy has a chance in the primary.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

The DNC expects voters to just fall in line, just like they did with Harris... oh wait.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago

Harris is a great example because she had a lot of institutional support and big money backing in 2020 and flamed out. With alternatives available, he's toast.

He just can't compete on emotional appeal with people like AOC or Buttigieg (I don't trust him, but he can speak well). And some of the other governors could point to political achievements, but his governing highlights have been stopping Democrats from creating law to help people and thinking his own rules didn't apply to him during the pandemic.

[-] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

For many reasons, unfortunately Buttigieg is a better candidate than Newsom. That's kind of sad.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Can you point to any sources about Buttigieg? I have to admit to not paying attention to him until very recently, when he’s been a voice of reason. I don’t know his history

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

It's a combination of two things, neither of which is totally disqualifying.

The first is his previous employment at McKinsey. They're a consultant firm that frequently gets brought in by companies to basically do bad things like fire a ton of people or manipulate prices. Not kidnapping children, but it's a weird place to work if you're driven by higher values.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/why-buttigiegs-shadowy-consultant-past-at-mckinsey-matters/

The second is in the 2020 primary he started out with progressive messaging and then pivoted to the role of moderate because Bernie and Warren sucked all the air out of that lane. So it just kind of paints the story that he doesn't really believe in anything. And with the moderate switch he courted a lot of money from big money fundraisers and spent a lot of time talking about what we can't do.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/23/us/politics/buttigieg-campaign-moderate.html

I don't get the impression he's deeply committed to any ideology. If he saw progressivism as the best way to advance his political career, he'd be progressive, but with the influence of big money and lobbyists, I doubt it'd work out that way. On the optimistic side he'd be an Obama, that talks hope and change and then continually defaults to "practicality" as lobbyists and establishment politicians tell him not to move too fast. On the pessimistic side he'd be a Sinema, who said progressive things in their younger days but then abandoned it all for ruthless centrism.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Thanks

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[-] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

That's rich coming from a dude who wants to see corporations control our identities, we use less resources but AI data centers and the Epstein class can leave the faucet running all while claiming he cares about the middle class.

Shit he might just win...

[-] beelzebum@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Divide-the-left effort going hard here.

You can tell because they have no alternative, only offering demotivation/departicipation

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Not like they're putting a gun to Gavin's head and forcing him to repeatedly be a transphobic shithead (like, he has been this way for years in multiple interviews with multiple outlets now)

If we don't want the left getting demotivated we should get leaders who don't attack us all the time

[-] P1k1e@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I mean we get these dick heads because of how even ranked choice voting works.

It doesn't matter if 1/3 of lefties vote for a true leftie, if we don't beat the Dems, then our votes go Dem....unless your not putting any rank vote on a Dem. Witch (it hurts to say it) is irresponsible

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[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 days ago

Who decides what's normal, Newsom? FUCK YOU

[-] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I think this is a critical point. Broadcast TV and Radio used to create a common shared cultural identity. But now a lot of the population has hyper personalized algorithms driving what content they consume, and there's an overwhelming amount of content out there. At least once a week I hear someone mention a new "must watch" TV show or podcast I've never heard of and don't have time for.... So yeah, who defines "culturally normal?"

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 2 days ago

Yeah I had two thoughts. What is culturally normal. Alls I can say for certain its definately not what the average republican thinks it is.

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[-] catshaped@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago

I think Newsom is the one who could take notes on what’s culturally normal.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Gavin Israel First Newsom

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Well now I’m just gonna be weird EVEN HARDER.

[-] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 day ago

Coming from the most abnormal idiot

But people will still hold their noses and claim, "He's better than Trump!"

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago

He probably is, but so is a rotting pile of dead cockroaches. It's not a high bar.

[-] choui4@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

You mean be more like Kamala.....

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

Ok, so if we want to win we should do the opposite thing then.

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