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[–] 83 points 6 months ago* (24 children)

Practicability and ethics aside, do people not understand how ecosystems work? What do they think keeps herbivore populations from growing uncontrollably and overrunning our fields? Ask China about the sparrows.

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  • [–] 41 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Give the herbivores abstinence only education

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Sorry sir. We've miscalculated the experiment and cows are republican now.

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  • [–] 32 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Republican cows, voting to subsidize the meat industry because "it's our heritage".

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  • [–] 39 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    do people not understand how ecosystems work?

    Absolutely not. This is why my friend who studies Forrest ecology sounds like an insane person whenever someone brings up deer.

    Hes a lovely human being who really loves animals, but he honestly advocates that everyone should be forced to kill deer any time they see one.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    CWD as well. Deer population collapse is real, because they have no real predators anymore. The sick bred and survive and you end up with crazy disease susceptible animals.

    You're friend is absolutely correct. Proper conservation requires death.

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    The problem is that wolves weren't really native to all the places deer overpopulated in America. The over population of deer wasn't a natural development, but a purposely implemented design by native populations of America that took place over thousands of years.

    Humans hunting deer is really the only solution because humans reshaped the forest ecology to overproduce deer in the first place. A lot of people like to think that prior to European colonization, America had a pristine and untouched forest. In reality native Americans spent thousands of years reshaping the forest to basically become deer factories.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    We had red wolves throughout the south. The northeast had timber wolves. Not to mention puma. Deer had predators everywhere they exist.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    We had red wolves throughout the south.

    Which mainly prey upon small mammals like raccoons, possums, and rabbits. They also were never a large enough population to control deer populations even if that was all they were to hunt.

    The northeast had timber wolves.

    Again... Eastern wolves were rarely seen south of the Great lakes, and there's evidence that there were less than 70k prior to Europeans coming to the Americas.

    On the other hand pre colonial white tail deer populations are estimated to be a little over 30 million.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago

    This bothers me.

    It’s like ohhh don’t let the wolves kill the sweet deer! Get rid of the wolves, they’re mean!

    If you don’t kill deer they get stupid and wander into roads, and they eat all your baby trees, then your forests die off.

    Deer evolved with predation. When predators are around they behave differently, the system needs both to keep in balance.

    And being vegan is fine, but animals don’t really have a conscience where they are in conflict with the morality of causing harm or it being optional for them.

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    [–] 39 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Endoskeleton. Endo - inside. Exo - outside. If the thing has a metal exoskeleton, the tiger is gonna have a real hard time biting into it.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    sighs I haven't been re-meated in forever! 😮‍💨

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    First of all: no one says that.

    Second: an "exoskeleton" covered in meat is just an endoskeleton... what most people simply refer to as a "skeleton."

    Not only is this guy making up ragebait content, he also doesn't know what he's talking about...

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    Real carnivores beat their meat and eat it raw.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    "We do what we must, because we can."

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