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[-] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

& Chinese Hardwareanufactures are rubbing their hands waiting for the opportunity

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago
[-] ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Do your part to make ai unviable by salting their ai algos. Feed them false info & make junk ai requests.

The sooner this bubble pops, the better.

Remember: the tools they give you for free today will make the chains they use on you tomorrow.

[-] Wooki@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Sounds convenient after not long ago they cut production on the back of slowing demand.

"AI" more like thinly veiled business cartel on the back of low to no chances of law enforcement and regulation.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 32 points 16 hours ago

I'm getting distinct "fire sale" vibes from all of this.

[-] ebolapie@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Oh my god we're having a FIRE ^sale^

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 83 points 19 hours ago
[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 20 hours ago

Oh when will China start making HDDs and SSDs and GPUs and CPUs

PLEASE China PLEASE flood the market with cheap, top shelf computer parts that will force Western corporations to lower their prices or go bankrupt when they don't

[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 38 points 19 hours ago

They do make hardware in most of those categories, actually, but they don't sell much of it direct to consumer in the West. And unfortunately, the way things are going, they're going to be able to get better prices for it from the AI-entranced idiots too.

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[-] Australis13@fedia.io 203 points 1 day ago

So basically the consumer market is screwed until the AI bubble bursts and manufacturers (GPUs, RAM, HDDs, etc.) can rebalance their production lines back to the pre-AI division of enterprise vs consumer product.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago

That's about the size of things, yes.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 49 points 23 hours ago

In 2030 you will own nothing.

And you will be happy.

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

I wish I believed the happy part

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 hours ago

I think the happy comes with the unsaid "or else"

You be happy or you be soylent.

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 19 points 21 hours ago

As workers, we are majorly screwed no matter what happens. Either AI/Robotics takes off, and creates a permanent 50% unemployment class, which MAGA will solve by exchanging basic subsistence needs like shelter and water in work camps, where we will be leased out to corporations as slaves, under the 13th Amendment. Also a good place for any dissenters, journalists, attorneys and judges who won't go along, etc.

Or maybe the bubble will pop, and we'll have a repeat of 2008, except 100 times worse.

No matter what happens, the citizens are going to take it in shorts.

[-] jsnfwlr@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

Rather US centric view there. What'll happen to the majority of the world's population?

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 3 hours ago

"Why aren't people reproducing anymore?"

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[-] cideyav138@lemmy.ml 20 points 17 hours ago

Haven't seen anyone else ask this question, so I will. What on earth does an AI data center need all of this storage for?

The only significant use of AI is for text generation to my knowledge. Video gen is the only thing that takes up any significant space, and current models can only produce short video clips before they go off the rails. Also, very few people are interested in video gen. It's an expensive toy without much real world utility. Is there something I'm missing? Are these AI companies planning to scrape every video off the net and store them independently for training?

Booking out this much HDD capacity would only make sense to me if 5 TikTok or YouTube competitors all came onto the scene at once. Not AI. AI needs fast, parallelized compute and high performance memory to hold the models it's running. Text slop requires negligible storage.

[-] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

They want to log ALL user data in the world. Every convo you ever had with the ai, in text or audio, images video, etc.

[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Caching. I'm guessing they download the internet to large storage arrays and then run neural network learning on them. Its probable they download all videos too and transcribe them later. So its not so much used for hosting content, but for teaching models.

[-] maturelemontree@lemmy.zip 36 points 14 hours ago

It may be a little tinfoil hat like, but you cannot convince me that these companies are shoving AI in literally everything, buying all the hardware in existence, and building data centets on land that no one wants them at, just to "make a better ai for the consumer." I believe this is an attempt at hardcore tracking and surveillence.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 15 points 14 hours ago

I think it's a combination of that and the worry that there will be one winning ubercorp that practically merges with the US Government.

I mean, they are all pushing all their chips in at the same time. It's like they know it's now or never.

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 13 minutes ago

And govs are pushing it because it's yet another arms race.

The logical course of action is to collectively just not do AI. But you can't prevent your adversaries from doing such, so it ends up being like some sort of prisoner's dilemma.

[-] T156@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

I mean, they are all pushing all their chips in at the same time. It’s like they know it’s now or never.

Even if they didn't, they probably don't want to seem like they're falling behind, so once one person goes all in, so do the others.

[-] Justifier@lemmy.world 22 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Unfortunately the most refined usage, and money dumped sector of Ai by far is image recognition

Its where all the money from Amazon and others has been dumped (Flock Surveillance, Amazon Ring, FedEx Trucks, Wal~Mart and your choice of store)

Surveillance, ALPR, Facial recognition, gait recognition, etc. It takes a massive amount of data

Go see how much space you need if you want to secure data from 10,000 cameras at 480p/720p/1080p for a few weeks, let alone a year or two

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[-] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 41 points 20 hours ago

This is the plan. They want us to rent virtual machines from them. No buy, only rent. You will own nothing, think of the shareholders and be happy, no….proud, you are here for their benefit.

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[-] heiligerbimbam@lemmy.wtf 64 points 22 hours ago
[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 10 minutes ago

I uh...was not quite expecting that.

[-] yarrage@sh.itjust.works 30 points 22 hours ago

Those are some big ear muffs

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[-] fortnitefinn@sh.itjust.works 19 points 21 hours ago

The boobs really sell it.

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[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 33 points 20 hours ago

The AI bubble is starting to pop. All of these companies have made hardware and data center investments far beyond what is needed or can be sustained. The debt is piling up and they are scrambling to justify the immense build out. Musk allowing porn and CSAM on Grock for paid users , Chat GPT pushing commercials, Microslop putting copilot in everything and forcing adoption. Oracles server utilization remains low, Etc. etc.

They now need to show immense growth and adoption in order to keep getting loans or justify burning cash to their shareholders.

Chat GPT and Oracle will be the first to fall, then xAI etc. Google and Microslop have other revenue sources that can weather the storm. But they won’t continue their massive investments.

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[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 44 points 22 hours ago

A while back, I was thinking about upgrading my living room entertainment PC. It's got a decent video card in it, but some of the other hardware is getting long in the tooth.

Now, my plan is to focus on software tweaks to squeeze the absolute best performance I can out of it, and keep the hardware as-is until it starts physically breaking down. And when that happens, I'll find refurbished hardware to upgrade it with, rather than spending the exorbitant fees to buy anything new.

What mystifies me about all this is that it's obvious what the end goal is: No more PCs, and everyone just rents dumb terminals connected to AI data centers that run everything and have all the compute power. The problem is that literally no one but AI companies want that. Not consumers, and not other companies that sell software and services to consumers.

When cars replaced carriages, it was because people actually wanted them. Cars had real-world benefits over horses. But this shit? No one wants it. Gamers want game performance you simply can't get with streamed games. People who work with computers for a living don't want their ability to do anything to vanish if their ISP has an outage.

Shit's gonna get stupid, fast.

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[-] rafoix@lemmy.zip 90 points 1 day ago

Are all these companies going to go bankrupt when the AI bubble pops and their products flood the market?

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago

They'd only go bankrupt if they were spending the capital to increase capacity and were left holding the bag. And nobody's interested in doing that.

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 20 points 21 hours ago

These psychopaths are absolutely giddy about taking all our jobs away.

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 13 hours ago

While simultaneously acting like a bunch of whiny little crybabies about falling birth rates.

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