Shame on me for reading this long, droning insanity.

I didn't read all that.

If someone tells a lie about you, and it's a lie, but no one else is able to confirm that it's a lie, then it's as good as the truth.

So unless she posts real nudes showing that those are fake, they're as good as real.

Ok story time. The point will be after. you remind me of my highschool classmate, 1996. In 2015, 19 years after we graduated, at a funeral dinner none the less, he asked me if I had ever been to the strip club in Lincoln. And if I haven't I need to go with him because they treat him like a king whenever he goes. It took everything in my wife and I power to not laugh. This guy still lives with his parents, and has never been in a relationship to this day.

So when you say "I've seen probably hundreds/thousands of naked women online, and maybe a dozen IRL? And it's true what they say, you see one, you wanna see 'em all." You sound exactly like him. 100% douchebag and forever lonely.

Ah, yes... the "it's just a prank, bro" justification for sexual harassment. I'm sure that will put the victims' minds at ease.

If you can't see how AI generated porn can be used to hurt someone then I don't know what to tell you You're a lost cause

What a absolutely shit take. So if you're viewing AI generated child porn it's ok because it's AI generated and not real.

I don't condemn sex workers or porn stars, it's the life they chose, if women absolutely don't want to have ai generated porn of them its their right. and you wouldn't either.

And what is done with that material can lead to even darker outcomes .

And here I am wanting musk to be arrested for his AI generating child porn , we are not the same

You are free to disagree but as a man who wants to be considerate and respectful to all people, this is my take on your comment.

Assuming fake and appreciating anything that doesn't contravene your own boundaries is vastly insufficient. The creation process is irrelevant. The objectification and accompanying dehumanisation is the problem.

That woman was denied agency in a manner that any and all right thinking men should be denouncing as being outside their boundaries, regardless of whether you have ever encountered the person in the images... If you aren't objecting, you're complicit as a member of the audience.

The issue isn't really whether they're fake or not, it's that they exist at all. Whether or not they're real, the person can absolutely be upset that they've been made and further that they're being distributed. Profiting from it is just salt in an already gaping wound.

TLDR It’s on men to assume slop? I agree men are the problem here, but I think this is less about the images themselves (although that is what attracts the men) and more like: If you’ve ever had negative sex-based rumours or gossip going around about you (and this can be women too), this is like the latest form of that. It’s the feelings that ostracisation produces in you that are just gut wrenchingly painful rather than the facts

“I think that people assume, because the pictures aren't real, that it's not as damaging,” Brewer told me. “But if anything, this was worse"